Matthew 22:30 “Like the Angels”

[canadyjd]

Matthew 22:30 “…in the resurrection, they are neither given or taken in marriage, but are as the angels in heaven”.

This is one of the few glimpses of heaven we find in scripture. Specifically, does “like the angels” refer only to the issue of marriage?

That does seem to be the context. There will be no marriage, therefore no intimate relations (in the carnal sense).

Can this mean we will be spirit beings, like the angels, in the resurrection? I don’t think so.

From this passage can we also extrapolate that angels cannot procreate? I have heard folks argue the “Nephilium” of Genesis were offsprings of demons and women. I never believed the context support that belief, but doesn’t Matthew 22:30 demonstrate that is impossible?

Thanks for the comments and remember the rules about not being too explicit.

peace to you

 

[Aaron]

Matthew 22:30 “…in the resurrection, they are neither given or taken in marriage, but are as the angels in heaven”.

This is one of the few glimpses of heaven we find in scripture. Specifically, does “like the angels” refer only to the issue of marriage?

That does seem to be the context. There will be no marriage, therefore no intimate relations (in the carnal sense).

Can this mean we will be spirit beings, like the angels, in the resurrection? I don’t think so.

From this passage can we also extrapolate that angels cannot procreate? I have heard folks argue the “Nephilium” of Genesis were offsprings of demons and women. I never believed the context support that belief, but doesn’t Matthew 22:30 demonstrate that is impossible?

Thanks for the comments and remember the rules about not being too explicit.

peace to you

We're told that are bodies are buried a natural body, but raised a spiritual body 1 Corinthians 15:44 , but I think we should guard against thinking of the vaporous beings of traditional ghost lore when thinking of a spiritual body. I can't begin to describe it, because I can't conceive of it, but I believe if we think of this world as the vapor, and the spiritual world as the solid, then we'd be on the right track.

But yes, you are right. Angels are not sexual beings, and in the next world, neither will we be. In Christ, there is no male or female.

And I believe you are also right in that the Nephilim are not angels or demons.

 

[percho]

Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. Luke 20:34

I think a good question relative to the above is; This, "age," of what?

Was there an age prior to this age of sons given in marriage? Was there always going to be an age following this age of marry and given in marriage?

Was this age made because of, the death?
Consider; Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through (the) death he might destroy him that had the power of (the death) death, that is, the devil;

in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages;
Heb 1:2

Plural. I wonder how many.

 

[timtofly]

Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. Luke 20:34

I think a good question relative to the above is; This, "age," of what?

Was there an age prior to this age of sons given in marriage? Was there always going to be an age following this age of marry and given in marriage?

Was this age made because of, the death?
Consider; Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through (the) death he might destroy him that had the power of (the death) death, that is, the devil;

in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages;
Heb 1:2

Plural. I wonder how many.

There was an age where Eve and Adam were the same person. Then God put Adam to sleep for surgery, and removed Eve.

When Adam's flesh is restored to the full image of God, will the genders no longer be separated? Is that already a condition in Paradise or at the Second Coming? Is the fact a son of God can multiply in Genesis 1, actually cloning without the need for physical procreation?

What if the sons of God, in Genesis 6, rebelled against cloning and wanted to partake in procreation? The sons of God are not angels. Angels cannot clone themselves either. Only humans were told to multiply and fill the earth. Angel do not multiply and fill the firmament, unlike popular science that claims the heavens keep multiplying and expanding.

 

[canadyjd]

There was an age where Eve and Adam were the same person. Then God put Adam to sleep for surgery, and removed Eve.

When Adam's flesh is restored to the full image of God, will the genders no longer be separated? Is that already a condition in Paradise or at the Second Coming? Is the fact a son of God can multiply in Genesis 1, actually cloning without the need for physical procreation?

What if the sons of God, in Genesis 6, rebelled against cloning and wanted to partake in procreation? The sons of God are not angels. Angels cannot clone themselves either. Only humans were told to multiply and fill the earth. Angel do not multiply and fill the firmament, unlike popular science that claims the heavens keep multiplying and expanding.

Well, I guess if you live long enough you can hear most anything.

I’ve never heard Adam and Eve were one person before God removed the rib and formed Eve. I’ve never heard of God’s creative acts be described as cloning before.

Needless to say, I disagree, but thanks for posting.

peace to you

 

[timtofly]

Well, I guess if you live long enough you can hear most anything.

I’ve heard Adam and Eve were one person before God removed the rib and formed Eve. I’ve never heard of God’s creative acts be described as cloning before.

Needless to say, I disagree, but thanks for posting.

peace to you

Obviously it was not cloning as we look at it. But the same principle.

The birth process changed after Eve was taken out of Adam. Then after sin, that process was changed again, because of death. In this current condition we will never know exactly what took place at the beginning outside of God's written Word.

 

[Dr. Bob]

I balk at the idea that Adam and Eve were the same person. Adam was Adam. God created him Adam and called him Adam.

Later God took a rib and from that (man's rib) God made woman. Later Adam named her Eve. Two separate entities and two separate works of God.

Don't think ANY lesson on the one-time special work of God to make man from dust, then make woman from rib, and then conventional sexual procreation. Interesting fact, but Adam was NOT born (no "birth process", a misleading term), Eve was NOT born, and everyone since has been born.