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McCain didn't want Trump at funeral service

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Gold Dragon

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Trump's comment was a follow up after McCain said people at Trump's rally are "crazies". One comment is as disgusting as the other.

The quote was from a new yorker interview after a Trump rally in Phoenix where he spent most of the speech firing people up about illegal immigration.

John McCain Has a Few Things to Say About Donald Trump

“This performance with our friend out in Phoenix is very hurtful to me,” McCain said. “Because what he did was he fired up the crazies.”

McCain, who has long supported comprehensive immigration reform and was a member of the so-called Gang of Eight that successfully pushed immigration legislation through the Senate in 2013, has been at war with the far right in Arizona for years. “We have a very extreme element within our Republican Party,” McCain said. He then noted that he was personally censured by Arizona Republicans in January of 2014 and has been fighting to push out the extremists in the state G.O.P. ever since. “We did to some degree regain control of the Party.”

But McCain fears that Trump may be reversing those gains. “Now he galvanized them,” McCain said. “He’s really got them activated.”
 

Wingman68

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A lot of folks wearing rose colored glasses on this thread. Families of POW/MIA are probably not lavishing his death with such reverence.
 

Scarlett O.

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Trump's comment was a follow up after McCain said people at Trump's rally are "crazies". One comment is as disgusting as the other.

Oh, I don't defend McCain either.

I'm just saying that if I were McCain's child and Donald Trump had disparaged my father's being a POW in a manic statement - I wouldn't have him at my father's funeral.

Trump's biggest problem is his mouth. I'll vote for him again, but I wish he would learn to control the "social media teenage girl" insults he hurls out when they are not necessary. It makes him sound like he has a loose screw.
 

Jerome

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What a petty, petty little man Donald Trump is.

“Typical practice is for flags to remain at half-staff through the day of internment.“

Story filed by CBS's Emily Tillett that KenH relies on:

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cbsnews.com/news/flag-flies-at-full-staff-at-white-house-as-nation-honors-john-mccains-death/
Sen. John McCain...died on Saturday...the White House originally lowered the flag late Saturday evening, White House reporters, including CBS News' Mark Knoller, noticed that the flag was back at full staff Monday morning...Typical practice is for flags to remain at half-staff through the day of interment.



Here's what the U.S. Code dictates be done:

4 U.S. Code § 7 (m)
The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress.
 
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KenH

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Here's what the U.S. Code dictates be done:

"Flags are lowered by presidential proclamation, so the president decides who receives the honor. But the recent tradition for sitting senators who die in office has been to have flags lowered in their honor from their death until their burial.

During former President Barack Obama's time in office, four sitting senators died while he was in office: Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts in 2009, Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia in 2010, Democratic Sen. Daniel Inouye of Hawaii in 2012 and Democratic Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey in 2013.

Obama signed proclamations for Kennedy, Bryd and Inouye, and those proclamations lowered flags to half staff until the days they were buried. The Obama White House archives don't include a proclamation for Lautenberg, though per his obituary by the Associated Press, the flag did fly at half-staff at the White House for an unspecified amount of time.

Additionally, when Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia died in 2016 – the first time a justice died in office in more than 50 years – Obama signed a proclamation on the day of his death, ordering flags lowered until his burial."

Breaking with tradition, White House flags return to full staff after McCain's death
 

Wingman68

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Oh, I don't defend McCain either.

I'm just saying that if I were McCain's child and Donald Trump had disparaged my father's being a POW in a manic statement - I wouldn't have him at my father's funeral.

Trump's biggest problem is his mouth. I'll vote for him again, but I wish he would learn to control the "social media teenage girl" insults he hurls out when they are not necessary. It makes him sound like he has a loose screw.
How do you feel about a sister trying to stand up for her lost brother? Let me tell you her tale.
On Nov.11,1992, Delores Alfond, the sister of a missing airman, who chaired the National Alliance of Families, testified at a senate public hearing. She asked for information about data the government had gathered from electronic devices used in a classified program called PAVE SPIKE. The devices were motion sensors designed to pick up enemy movement, & could have manually entered data, which our guys were trained to use with their # being entered. It was collected electronically by planes flying over.
Alfond stated that in 1974, a year after all POW’s were supposed to have been returned, data gathering showed no less than 20 authenticator numbers had been entered into PAVE SPIKES that corresponded with the #’s of POW’s lost in Laos. She added that the Senate committee had not discussed it or released what it knew about PAVE SPIKE.
McCain attended the hearing to confront her. He bellowed & berated her, his face turning red. He accused her of denigrating his patriotism. She finally began to cry. When she gathered herself, & tried to respond, he stormed out.
When will the public be made aware of PAVE SPIKE, & those 20 POW’s. It’s still classified.
 

Calminian

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Trump tried many times to bury the hatchet with McCain. McCain wouldn't let it happen. Trump has been very gracious in these last days when McCain took a turn for the worse. But McCain then decided to politicize his own death and expressly disinvite the POTUS to his funeral. That's his choice, but it's a shame. I think the President has struck the right tone and done the right thing, thus far.
 

Calminian

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He was at heart really a Dem, so his true colors came out in the end.

I think he was conflicted. He's voted for conservative SC justices which is really important. But McCain loved being loved. So while conservative, he did everything he could to be loved by liberals, particularly the liberal media. It's ironic, because when he ran for President they didn't love him back, but then he went right back to them again when he was in a position to be a "maverick."

Bottom line though, I wish he didn't politicize his death. But we can forgive.
 

Yeshua1

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I think he was conflicted. He's voted for conservative SC justices which is really important. But McCain loved being loved. So while conservative, he did everything he could to be loved by liberals, particularly the liberal media. It's ironic, because when he ran for President they didn't love him back, but then he went right back to them again when he was in a position to be a "maverick."

Bottom line though, I wish he didn't politicize his death. But we can forgive.
Agreed, as I just wish that he owuld have kept walking all the way over nd turn to a Dem, and have a conservative republican in his stead all those years!
 
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