ME (Millennial Exclusion) Posts

Building with Gold = Preaching a loving Christ who will not cast away His own.

Building with Wood = Preaching a Christ who would cast His own out of His Kingdom to be devoured by dogs.

 

Trying to be sure of what you are saying before I respond. Are you saying that all we lose at the JSOC is bad things about ourselves, like our selfish desires, thoughts, etc.? Things we should want to lose anyway?

 

So is it sin to preach a Christ who would cast His own out of His Kingdom to be devoured by dogs?

 

Building with Silver = Preaching loss of crowns for works that are not pleasing to God.

Building with hay = Preaching bad works will cause one to forfeit Kingdom entrance.

 

Can you answer the point of the thread?

How about DHK, Webdog, Amy G? Surely someone can answer such a simple question?

 

Building with Precious Stones = Preaching that Christ is our Defense and will present us blameless before the Father

Building with stubble = Preaching that Christ will prosecute His own and cast them into outer darkness/hell

 

Yes, Mike. You see, we are standing there our glorious bodies and it is necessary to have glorious minds, emotions, and wills as well!

When you appear at the Bema, your spirit (mind, emotions, will) will be a collection of thoughts, etc. -- what you left earth with. For proof, look at the martyrs in Rev 6:9-11. They were still concerned about vengeance and actually cried in heaven about it. When these come to the Bema at another time, they will have those things that were not godly "tried as by fire," 1Cor 3:13.

Afterward, you will be completely glorified -- body, soul, and spirit.

skypair

 

Pretty clever. But you still refuse to answer the question.

Is it sin to preach bad works will cause one to forfeit Kingdom entrance?

If you believe the answer is no, just say so. Be of good courage.

 

Show us where we lose crowns and how you get that crowns mean we rule in the MK.

skypair

 

Chapter and verse?
I should clarify.... Chapter anf verse from the Bible?

 

So are you also then saying that our thought life is our spirit, and that we do not sin in our spirit?

 

There is no point.

 

But they were so bold before. I am still hopeful for a response. Maybe they just have not seen the thread or will be back on Monday.

 

So you do believe that one must be faithful to be part of the Bride of Christ? The Bride is the governing spouse of Christ.

 

So you are saying that there is a great difference in heaven and the New Jerusalem which was described in Revelation?

Anyway, how can you call it eternity the moment we die when you have yet to recieve a glorified body, and you have yet to be rewarded for your works, wether good or bad? There is still time in exsistance at least until the GWT. I do not see eternity in place until after time is no more.

 

The sun does not define time. There were three days in Genesis 1 before God even created the sun.

And look at Revelation 6

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

There was obviously time in heaven at this point.

And this is probably off topic, but what makes you think the earth revolves around the sun?

Time will not end until after the GWT.

 

He that believeth hath eternal life.

Eternity starts from the moment one places one's trust in the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

Those who are of God are in eternity already.

 

Funny thing about it is, whenever I tried to point that out, I was ridiculed and denigrated, my spiritual salvation was questioned, and no one said a thing to those who did so.

Not everyone did that. There are a couple who were able to look at the differences and discuss those.

 

OK I'm jumping to the end of this thread to give my opinion:

1 Corinthians 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

What does this mean?

Let's look at another Scripture:

Galatians 6
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

We are also told that whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

For instance, I come into some money. I can invest it in some fleshy thing (a brand new car-loaded). This will not follow me into life everlasting but will reap corruption, that is, the car will rust/wear away and end up in a salvage yard or buried and I will suffer the lose of not having made a spiritual investment with the money.

If I make an investment in a spiritual endevor, missions, giving to the poor, Church related works, then these will follow me into life everlasting and I will reap reward.

HankD​

 

I think this may be part of the problem. Because of the vituperation of mostly one individual (and several other aping him), many people have decided that we have said something that we have not: That it's ruling and reigning or hell.

For the most part, it's going to be ruling and reigning or being reigned over. Hell is a warning that is directed at a very small group of saved individuals. (My personal opinion is that it is aimed only at saved individuals during the tribulation, but that's not pertinent to this discussion.)