ME (Millennial Exclusion) Posts

The acronym "ME" was thought up by someone who was trying to be denigrating on this board. Its use is not widespread, and it's silly. That's why the silliness of "KD". Each is just as accurate as the other.

However, the preaching and teaching of the gospel of the Kingdom is widespread, and I can hook you up with some in the UK, if you're interested.

 

1. How did you decide that it is going to be small group?

2. What is meant by being reigned over?

 

Better watch it! You're starting to sound just like one of us! You'll be called a heretic in short order.

The only thing you say differently than what we are saying is that you don't see the tiny little minority who will be cast into gehenna.

Most of what we focus on is the difference between those who will see the Kingdom (subjects) and those who will enter the Kingdom (rule and reign).

It's only a hateful hanful that concentrates on the small group that are warned about gehenna, then lie about what we say and claim that we have stated that it's either hell or the Kingdom.

But, your statement above sounds identical to ours, and not ever Kingdom Accountability proponent agrees about gehenna, so your statement really does sound identical to ours.

Heretic! (Oh, wait, that's the line from npetreley and SFIC. Sorry.)

 

Now this puzzles me. I thought that it was your group that used ME as an acronym. Why should it be either denigrating or innacurate. We use many acronyms that we just take for granted to make our typing go faster: JSOC, GWT, MK, are common enough on both sides that there is no question of their acceptability. But you teach that there will be some excluded from the Millennial Kingdom. Is that not Millennial Exclusion? Is that not ME? Why are you offended at this abbreviation? If it shouldn't be abbreiviated in this way, what is a more accurate term or abbreviation in your opinion?

 

That's a bit of a red herring. God provided the light source. It didn't have to come from the sun during the first three days of creaton. As long as there was an earth rotating on its axis there were 24 hour days, whether or not there was an actual sun. God still provided the light for the earth. There was still light and darkness, morning and evening.

 

You are reading your preconceived ideas into this.
What happens when a person died. They go to be with the Lord. Their spirit is there with the Lord. They are still in eternity even if their body is in the grave. If you read 2Cor.5:1-5 and compare it to 1Cor. 15, you find out they we, like the angels in heaven are spirit beings. Right now we are clothed with an "earthly tabernacle," a temporary body. Someday we will receive a celestial body, a glorified body. But during all of this time our spirits will live on forever. We are spirit beings; the dwelling that we live in will change. When this spirit of mine will enter heaven, it will be with the Lord in eternity. There I will await (as every one else) the resurrection to take place where I will receive my glorified body. Shortly after that will be the JSOC.
I ask you: Where are the apostles right now? Are they with Christ in eternity or not? To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Is Christ in eternity? If he isn't where is he? Did Paul go to be with the Lord, as he said he was going to. If he is not in eternity, then where is he?

 

Genesis 1:27 also verifies the 'spirit being'. God created man in His own image. Jesus said in John 4 that God is a Spirit.

 

We also teach that many will be included in the Kingdom but I don't hear anyone calling us Millenial Inclusionists. Ya'll take the most negative aspect of the doctrine and focus on it and it makes it sound unbalanced. Then you have folks like SFIC that really go off the edge with his Mercy Exclusionist hyperbole. Some will be included some will be excluded. I believe Kingdom Accountability or Accountability Truth to be the most accurate terms as they are balanced. All will be accountable for the things done in their body whether they be good or bad. Good behavior will get good rewards and bad behavior will get bad rewards, rather than shifting our accountability, we are to accept is as we will be judged for such things by a merciful and righteous judge.

 

That's Mercy Eliminated.

You eliminate God's mercy when you have His Children being treated like the unsaved. Cast into outer darkness/hell... where's the mercy in that?

Mercy Eliminated it is.

 

Those who take part in the first resurrection will stand before the JSoC. They will have to give account for the deeds done in the body. They will lose rewards (crowns). They will not be excluded from the Millenial Kingdom.

Why?

Because Jesus Christ the Righteous will extend mercy because of His blood and their faith.

 

That's exactly what He will do. His disobedient children will be treated as the unsaved temporarily. They will receive their portion with the unbelievers. Not because He isn't merciful but because He is just.

"The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers."- Luke 12:46​

 

Yer reading into the Scripture that which is not there.

You are treading some a dangerous path.

 

All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. (John 6:37)

The servant in Luke 12:46 will be appointed his portion with the unbelievers because it will be revealed that he was not a believer in the first place.

'Depart from me ye that do work iniquity. I never knew you.'

The Lord will never tell a Believer to depart from Him.

 

Oh, I thought you believed in eternal security, my bad.

"But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. " - Luke 12:45-47​

 

I do believe in eternal security. I just deny the false doctrine that Christ will cast His Children into outer darkness or hell.

 

Judgement seat of Christ, when we come out of the Grave according to Jesus.

John 5:
28: Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29: And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Rom 8:11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

 

Those that have done evil will not see their resurrection until 1,000 years after the ones in the first resurrection.

 

Not according to Jesus.

John 5:
28: Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29: And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation

All will come out of the grave in selfsame hour. Some on the right and some on the left. Those on the right will hear Him say, "Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the home that been prepared for you from the foundation of the world." Those on the left will hear Him say "Depart from me ye workers of iniquity, for I never knew you."

 

Sort of like how Jesus would bever call a believer "son of perdition" or "Satan?"