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Discussion in '2008 Archive' started by DeafPosttrib, Jul 6, 2007.

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  1. Mike Berzins

    Mike Berzins New Member

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    So you are saying that our soul is already perfect in Christ, and all that we lose at the JSOC are sinful tendencies of the spirit?
     
  2. Mike Berzins

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    It is interesting to note that James always uses the same version (with none of his own private interpretation (which means translation, for those of you who fancy yourselves to understand Greek but don't understand English)).

    Regardless of whether it helps our "cause" or not, some of us believe that we should just use one version of the bible, as God would not speak in a contradictory matter. (Various popular Bible versions differ in significant aspects).

    Using multiple versions or doing one's own "off-the-cuff" private translations is a practice that is most conducive to teaching one's own pet doctrine, as opposed to simply letting God speak and then conforming our doctrine to what the bible says.
     
  3. James_Newman

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    What is that supposed to mean?

    Revelation 6:9-10
    9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
    10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
     
  4. James_Newman

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    I believe the bible teaches there will be natural people living in the kingdom to be reigned over. Where they come from I know not. But we (if we are in the kingdom) will not be these subjects. I don't see any other options in scripture other than reigning or cast out for those of us in this dispensation.
     
  5. James_Newman

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    What will happen if he continues down that path, accountability denier? :laugh:
     
  6. James_Newman

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    Don't forget the false doctrine that you can be a saved child of God by just believing, right?
     
  7. James_Newman

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    I think by 'grace' you mean Calvinism. We believe in grace to the nth degree.
     
  8. Accountable

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    I know that you didn't write this to me but I have some info that might help you.

    Many baptist men through the past century have qouted Robert Govett and have found his writtings helpful. To name just one would be Dr. Griffith Thomas. I have been reading his book St. Paul's Epistle to the Romans (1947) and have found Robert Govett quoted there.

    Concerning Spurgeon, The last writting of Spurgeon was never put into print. He died before he finished the writing was called Matthew: The Gospel of the Kingdom. Concerning his qoute: "The day will come when the idols of the hour will perish, and the writings of such a man as R. Govett will be prized as the much fine gold."This quote is found in the writing "The Sword and the Trowel (1881), 480.

    I pray this will help you! God Bless.
     
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    Those who deny that Christ is currently King of Kings and Lord of Lords are Kingdom deniers. For the Kingdom is God's rule and reign. It speaks of His soveriegnty and not just the physical earthly throne which it is limited to by some who espouse to that heresy.
     
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    Now that was just too funny.

    If it is a writing, it has to be in print. If you mean it never was published in a book, how do we know the writing you are speaking of is even CHS?
     
  11. Hope of Glory

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    Anyone to the lake of fire forever and ever.

    I've heard this many, many times.

    What's the difference?
     
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    Don't forget the type we are given of Adam and his bride in which she was taken out of his body. He didn't marry his entire body.
     
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    The difference is Christians are not appointed to wrath. Yet you have Jesus casting them into outer darkness or hell in His anger.
     
  14. Accountable

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    Okay, we will use your terminology. His manuscripts are in a library in Missouri. A dear pastor friend of mine went there and studied them a few years agog. The college purchased his manuscripts from the Metropolitan Tabernacles many years ago. Your apology, if there is one, is accepted.

    All are in the hand of Charles Spurgeon.
     
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    Just because someone is or is not appointed unto something doesn't mean it will not happen.

    Example:
    Is it not appointed unot man once to dies, then the judgement?

    This does not mean that all men WILL die. It means it is appointed. Many will be caught up without experiencing death. Also we have Elijah and Enoch.
     
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    Scriptures tell us that animals have souls.
     
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    And Elijah and Enoch will meet that appointment with death. Read the account of the two witnesses in Revelation.
     
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    Thats Moses and Elijah, but whatever.

    1 Corinthians 15:51-52
    51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    I assume you believe this is speaking of the rapture. Do those folks come back and meet their appointment as well?
     
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    Makes sense that Enoch, the man who walked with God, will have to come back to meet that appointment.
     
  20. TCGreek

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    1. The original languages are there to be learned and mastered. Some of us have taken the time to delve into them. I make no apologies for using the original languages.

    2. Prior to the modern versions, all cults, false doctrines were primarily based on one version, the KJV.

    3. I'm not an onlyist in respect to any version of the Bible. I just think that the whole issue of Onlyist is a waste of precious time.

    4. Personally, I study and preach and teach from the NASB, but where I see a better translation from the original languages, I gladly do so. Let's not forget that Bible translations are the efforts of fallible men. Period.
     
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