ME (Millennial Exclusion) Posts

You didn't answer my question. If you get raptured, will you have to come back and meet that appointment?

 

Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas City now owns the Spurgeon Library. They purchased it from William Jewel College a few months back.

 

Interesting that you place enoch among the two withnesse in Rev. 11.

Question: In the Elijah's days, he shut up the rain....
But I don't remember Enoch turning the water into blood. Can you give me a chapter and verse to clarify this for me? I do see evidence that this happened in the days of Moses.

And for the others who do not meet their appointment with death?

 

YOU ar reading something into it that is not there. (HMM..... Where have I heard that before?)
Please make sense of the thousands of others at the rapture.

 

Thanks for this info! I thought it was still at William Jewel.

Is MBTS making the manuscripts available to look at like WJC? At WJC you could make an appointment.

 

I beleive they meet their appointment at the time of the Rapture.

 

So God is going to rapture them and kill them? Or you think that there was a loophole in that appointment somewhere? Enoch was translated, but you think he needs to meet the appointment again?

 

Enoch and Elijah were both taken to heaven without dying. This happened before the cross.

Christ, when He died on the cross, descended and released the captive saints, saints who had died-- Enoch and Elijah were not among them. They will have to come back and face that appointment with death.

 

So you do not believe that we will be caught up in the same manner as Enoch and Elijah? Since they have not met their appointment, their rapture was different?
I don't see it. Anyone else here agree with this theology?

 

No, I do not believe it will be the same manner.

Enoch was walking with God and just continued walking. God took him.

Elijah was caught up in a chariot in a whirlwind.

We will go up alone and meet the Lord in the air.

 

I'm still asking for the scripture that you base your theology of the two witnesses on.

Maybe you can just answer this....... Who had the power over the waters to turn them to blood? And who could smite the earth with all plagues?

Just be honest enough to answer the question.

Also just a side note. I believe that there are many saints who were not resurrected. The bible says many, not all. Who knows, maybe Elijah and Enoch were not part of that resurrection but I believe they probably were .

 

Scripture please to back this up.

 

I must say fairwell for a few days. My wife is expecting baby #6. It is too dangerous for her to have the baby here. God has told us to be wise so we will travel to a place with better equiped Mid Wives and Doctors.

Keep us in your prayers please. I will stop in from time to time to check out the temperature!

We will be praying for all, and I truly mean all.

 

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27)

Were not Enoch and Elijah men? Did they die? My Bible says they didn't. They have not met that appointment with death.

I am sorry if you think they have.

Moses did die. We know this, for the Word of God tells us so.

Moses did not have the power to do any of those miracles except through God. God can give those abilities to whomsoever He pleases.

As to the many, not all, Isaiah records that the Messiah would set captivity free. I believe all that were held were freed. Many of those were seen in the holy city.

 

Are you folks arguing about "appointed to man once to die" vs. "not appointed to wrath"? Sigh - talk about your red herring. Those ME guys will stoop to anything.

 

Fine, but what part of being raptured constitutes dying. If Enoch and Elijah were men, and they didn't die when they were taken, and they didn't fulfill their appointment with death, why do you suppose Christians who are raptured do? Where is the scripture that says getting raptured counts as death toward your quota of one death required? Specially in light of the scripture I quoted earlier?

 

So, they not only deny the sufficiency of the blood of Christ but they deny God's Word and the appointments therein.

I am just wondering?

Are they sure they are Baptist?

 

Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? Talk about your presumptuous beaver. I know, appointed only means appointed when you want it to mean appointed. Otherwise it means appointed. But what do I know.

 

So you can't explain why getting raptured is going to fulfill your requirement for dying once? We shall not all sleep, but sleep will be imputed to us!

 

Try Galatians 2:20 that says I have been crucified with Christ. It is not me that lives, but Christ in me.

Try 1 John 3:2 that says we will be like Him for we shall see Him as He is.