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Meet the Pastor Running as a Progressive Republican to Get Big Money Out of Politics

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Crabtownboy said:
You misunderstand what I said and what I meant.

I think there should be a limit of, say, $10,000 to any politician from any individual, pact or corporation including media. The horrible Supreme Court decision in Citizens United took any interest that politicians had in the little man/woman out of their equation.
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Yes, but if you have media in your pocket, that's peanuts. I'd rather be limited to 0 if I knew media had my back.

If media is unlimited in it's coverage, and can cover a candidate positively 90 to 10, they are in essence giving billions of dollars to that candidate. If media can give someone billions everyone else should be able to also.
 
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Yes, but if you have media in your pocket, that's peanuts. I'd rather be limited to 0 if I knew media had my back.

If media is unlimited in it's coverage, and can cover a candidate positively 90 to 10, they are in essence giving billions of dollars to that candidate. If media can give someone billions everyone else should be able to also.
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So you want no news to be broadcast about any candidate. Is that what you mean by 0?
 
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What are the limits now?
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I'm not arguing about what the limits are now (I don't know the exactly details), I'm arguing that money in politics should be unlimited. There should be no limits at all. It's the only way to preserve free speech. If the biased media can advocate for a candidate 24/7, so should ordinary people.
 
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I'm not arguing about what the limits are now (I don't know the exactly details), I'm arguing that money in politics should be unlimited. There should be no limits at all. It's the only way to preserve free speech.
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How can you preserve free speech when the person with little money is totally ignored because of big money that buys the politician.

If you were a politician would you be more interested in the welfare of a person who can contribute a million to your campaign or to a person who can contribute five dollars?

Whose interests do you think politicians will consider more seriously?
 
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How can you preserve free speech when the person with little money is totally ignored because of big money that buys the politician.....
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That's what I'm trying to prevent. I don't want huge rich media corporations like the ones you're supporting to have the only voice on TV and in print. Little guys like me should be able to participate in PACs that support the things I want to support. And other rich non-media guys should be able to contribute as much as giant media corporations. Why do you only support the wealthy media companies?
 
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That's what I'm trying to prevent. I don't want huge rich media corporations like the ones you're supporting to have the only voice on TV and in print. Little guys like me should be able to participate in PACs that support the things I want to support. And other rich non-media guys should be able to contribute as much as giant media corporations. Why do you only support the wealthy media companies?
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You can participate in pacts, but they will have no real interest in you are you would give to little.

The only way to create equal interests in you is to limit the amount the rich cats and corporations can give.

I am not supporting the rich corporations. They should be limited in the amount they can give to not more than $10,000 ... maybe less.
 
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...The only way to create equal interests in you is to limit the amount the rich cats and corporations can give.

I am not supporting the rich corporations. They should be limited in the amount they can give to not more than $10,000 ... maybe less.
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If you are for freedom of the press, yes, you are supporting rich corporations like CNN and the NYT with unlimited contributions to candidates through positive news coverages, while trying to limit other non-media corporations.

You're not opposed to the rich, you're merely opposed to some of the rich.
 
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If you are for freedom of the press, yes, you are supporting rich corporations like CNN and the NYT with unlimited contributions to candidates through positive news coverages, while trying to limit other non-media corporations.
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Are you saying you are not in favor of freedom of the press?
 
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