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Members Down/Churches Up

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Revmitchell

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He spoke this to Pharisees, and knew their hearts of unbelief. Context context

And?...........


Well you can avoid the truth all you want. Jesus spoke harshly to Peter as well, Paul spoke harshly to the churches. Jesus told the church if they did not repent He would remove their candlestick. Jude told the church to "contend" for the faith. Paul told young Timothy to preach the word when it was convenient and when it is not.


All things in balance.
 

Bro. Curtis

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So should we tickle their ears ? Just to get them to come to church ? Water the message down ? What SPECIFICALLY can we do to ? Open up to women preachers ? Let the unsaved join the choir ? Let openly gay people be ushers ?

Please, help us. We want so much to please you . Stop telling us what we do is wrong, and tell us how to do it right.
 

Bro. Curtis

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How many here have been called a "bigot", by the likes of Crabtownboy, and others, simply because we obey the bible when it comes to women preachers ? How many people here have been called "bloodthirsty" for their support of the BIBLICAL death penalty, by Crabtownboy and his ilk ?

We know where the hate and intolerance lies, thank you.
 

SolaSaint

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I think I see a strawman being constructed these days when it comes to why the decline in members. The strawman in my opinion is made up to demonize those who believe in the fundamentals of the faith so we will be silent about doctrine. Why does anyone believe we should look to unsaved Charlie's opinion as how to worship our Great God and Savior? I'm really getting tired of all the sermons on how churches are terrible places because of the current members, I'm not sure what churches you all attend but I don't see anyone chasing off unbelievers or disrespecting them in any way.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I think I see a strawman being constructed these days when it comes to why the decline in members. The strawman in my opinion is made up to demonize those who believe in the fundamentals of the faith so we will be silent about doctrine. Why does anyone believe we should look to unsaved Charlie's opinion as how to worship our Great God and Savior? I'm really getting tired of all the sermons on how churches are terrible places because of the current members, I'm not sure what churches you all attend but I don't see anyone chasing off unbelievers or disrespecting them in any way.

:applause::applause::thumbs:
 

JonC

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What has amazed me (speaking of my community) is the extent to which members change churches. I have seen a large but declining church get a new pastor who brought exciting changes, which resulted in gaining members from other congregations – only to have many of these leave a couple of years later as a newer church is established. I know many of these people and the reason for leaving has rarely been doctrinal disagreements. (I think for the most part it has been “better” programs, a different approach to “doing church,” and perhaps personal disagreements). We have had several churches spring up and grow, but it appears that this growth is in terms of gaining members from other churches rather than reaching people for Christ. We have more churches than any time before, but if the culture is any indication we may have less Christians. Of course, we are ultimately living in a consumer based culture. It wouldn’t be difficult to spend one’s entire life “church shopping” and never truly belonging (with any sense of commitment) to a local church. We seem, as a whole, discontented and a little restless.
 
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