Military pastor

I will pass on commenting on most of your theocratic diatribe, but if you are proud of people who willingly harrassed Jewish, atheist, Mormon, and even the "wrong kind" of Christians at the Academy, then something is really wrong with your thinking. They went way beyond sharing their faith...and into the realm of harrassment. Just do a quick google search and you should find it, along with how female cadets were sexually harrassed and the perpetrators let free, while the victims suffered dismissal. This was not just sharing their faith in Christ...it was pure and simple hazing. Nothing Christian about it.

 

As a former instructor of officer candidates, let me make this crystal clear: military people are free to engage in religious activities, including proselytizing (spelling?) when they are off duty and out of uniform. They may do everything except proselytizing while in uniform (In my line officer days, I often attended, taught Sunday School, and preached in my duty uniform at my off-base church while on call, which was most of the time). There can be no restriction as to their speaking or leading at religious meetings. Military chaplains have the option of conducting Sunday chapel services in uniform.

Politics is another matter, but even then military members may participate in politics on a limited scale. They may put bumper stickers on their automobiles endorsing candidates or issues, and they can even attend (in civilian clothes) political meetings and rallies, as long as they do not identify themselves to the media as military member [though they must wonder who those clean-cut, physically-fit dudes with the buzz cut hair are]. They may not make political speeches, but may freely express their political beliefs in private conversation. Their non-military spouses share their full religious freedoms, and in addition the spouses have NO RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER AS TO POLITICAL ACTIVITY.

And, of course, I did a lot of pastoral work in uniform, as an elder at my church, and refused to participate in the "voluntary" promotion parties (open bars) when I was promoted.

 

MP please let me distance my self from any AF scandal. I feel you are putting on all Christian Believers in the military under the mistakes of a few knuckleheads. As to this argument, It has become circular, and I feel things said constitutional law above God's law are not christ honoring, and so I will choose to bow out. I am going to shake the dust off of my feet and continue to fufill the great comission in Japan. I pray earnestly that you would begin to support believers who have the opertunity to expand God's kingdom through their service of America.
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Do you have any clue as to the context of that statement in Scripture. It is referring to a disposition and response you should have toward one that is not interested in the GOSPEL. How absolutely arrogant of you to speak to another believer that way. The sanctimony in here is incredible. While the other person may not be your theological companion you are completely without warrant for responding to that person as if he is one that has rejected the gospel and is not a believer. Another case of Pastoritus.

 

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Much like you would be permitted to talk about football, or a new car, or anything else.

 

Thank you Mr. M. I was going to comment about this very thing, but figured, why bother. Like many with Pastoritus, Mr. Faulk appropriates scripture references out of context and misapplies them. He can shake his feet all he wants, but even though he was trying to be insulting, it doesn't bother me.

 

Pastoritus? What in the world is that? I thought I'd heard them all (Sandamanian, supralapsarian, bogomil and Glasites), but Pastoritus?