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Missouri state GOP candidate as a radio host once said ‘Hitler was right’
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Er...i think you'll find that's called right wing capitalism...as epitomized by our Conservative Party
Having been born in Texas in 1955, I am familiar with the poll tax. I have lived in Arkansas since 1978. Thus, I am quite familiar with both states.
Gosh, you are young! I guess life is good in Texas and Arkansas but I moved back to the Wabash River and I guess that I have made my last change of residence, although I would like to move to Kentucky and work at AiG. The real issue in this world is massive debt. Trump thinks that we can outgrow it but I wonder? I think that we need to begin to cut government and tell those DC bureaucrats that the days of doing nothing are over and their government job is abolished.
There you go again--how is slavery and government or class control a feature of capitalism as epitomized by Trump? It's not. Trump set off a boom by abolishing regulations and controls that Obama and the Dems tried to put on every aspect of the economy in order to keep people down and abolish opportunity. People like Trump because he has the common touch and he likes for people to have nice things. I used to work for a filthy rich Democrat and he once told one of the other guys on staff to remember his place that he would never be a part of the old money class. That's a Democrat for you--plantation owner.
Matt, maybe you know about this because I cannot find it online, but it seems that John Wesley visited one of the richest homes in England once and when he had been shown the whole home he remarked that it was wealth like this that made it so hard for men to die. Have you ever heard about that?
Another Englishman, the Catholic Gilbert K. Chesterton remarked once about the rich the following quotation, which I found in my dealings with the super rich to be absolutely true:
“Among the rich you will never find a really generous man even by accident. They may give their money away, but they will never give themselves away; they are egotistic, secretive, dry as old bones. To be smart enough to get all that money you must be dull enough to want it.”
I didn't mention Trump. I mentioned our Conservative Party. But what you described - an owner reaping the rewards of the labour of others (whether plantation owner, factory owner or business owner) - is capitalism to a 'T'
Except that Mussolini and Hitler were far-right oppressors and FDR admired them so much he helped destroy them!
Only because they attacked him. They all admired each other because they all believed in big government control of free enterprise, a variation of socialism. After the war, the publicity about the concentration camps caused the Dems to spin that Italy, Germany and Russia were not leftist like the Dems, but they were. FDR was dead by then so he did not have to repent. Wilson also was a leftist, a plantation owner in mentality.
Do you know anything about Wesley remarking about how a fabulous home made it hard for a man to die?
You mean like here in Mi, where the standard wage and livingf income went up HUGH right after WW II, due to that wicked capitalism of the big 3 auto companies?
KenH
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Interesting. Lipscomb wrote something similar about human governments:
“Every human government uses the substance, the time, the service of the subjects to enrich, gratify the appetites and lusts, and to promote the grandeur and glory of the rulers. And it is not true that in democratic or any other kind of governments the people themselves are rulers. They choose the rulers, at the instigation of a few interested leaders, then these rulers rule for their own selfish good and glory as other rulers do.” - David Lipscomb, “Civil Government”
No I hadn't heard that about Wesley but it doesn't surprise me. I do know that Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were not leftist though and in fact persecuted, imprisoned and killed the leftists in both countries eg: Thälmann in Germany, Matteoiti in Italy. And they didn't control their free enterprises: part of the attraction for the big bosses (the Krupps, I G Farben, Siemens, etc) and the junckers was that Hitler allowed them to keep control of their businesses, factories and land rather than threaten to confiscate it like the leftists...he promised to save them from the left wingers, and save them he did, at a terrible cost.
Remind me how that's working for you now with bankrupted Detroit and poisoned Flint?
Matt, you are veering into the absurd. Hitler's party was the National Socialist. Giovanni Gentile, the fascist behind Mussolini was considered a socialist and Italy was a corporate state such as FDR tried to do here in the USA. Of course, Stalin controlled everything in the Soviet Union.
Roosevelt said that Mussolini was admirable and that he was deeply impressed by what Mussolini had accomplished.
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Just because it has the word "socialist " in it doesn't make it left wing! You're the one being absurd here in claiming that regimes which persecuted leftists were left wing. It is an acknowledged fact that the Nazis and Fascists were far right, as is the EDL and your hero Tommy Robinson. All cut from the same cloth
Socialist is not left wing? An acknowledged fact? Ay, Chihuahua! Muy loco! Jim Acosta says he and CNN are not the enemies of the deplorables! Mama May try to keel Tommy Robinson. No mama mia. You smell what mama is cooking?
Sorry but you've really jumped the shark now
I hate it when that happens.
You want to see socialism at its core, check out Cuba!
Detroit went bankrupt due to being run financially by LIBERl DEMS past 40+ years!
No they werent. That is a myth
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