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Missouri state GOP candidate as a radio host once said ‘Hitler was right’

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church mouse guy

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Mussolini started as a socialist when he was editor of Avanti but then reject3d socialism over his support of Italy's entry into WWI, became a nationalist and then a fascist who persecuted and killed socialists, like an intolerant ex-smoker

Mussolini was a pupil of Gentile and a advocate of government control of production. He also was a career criminal. The UK is socialistic also with the big welfare state and the filthy prisons and the refusal to allow the lower classes to get ahead.
 

Yeshua1

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That genie's been out of the bottle about half a century since we legalised abortion and changed the definition of marriage by legalising divorce. Not new news at all
Even God permitted divorce in the Bible, so the real and fatal redefination of marriage was same sex one!
 

Matt Black

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No, we have redefined marriage many a time in this country. We changed it in 1756 when we abolished Common Law marriage. We did it again when we required marriages to be registered in 1836. And again in the 1880s when we allowed married women to own property rather than be property. And again when we allowed divorce in 1969 and 1973. We redefined marriage with each of these Acts of Parliament. Every. Single. Time.
 

Yeshua1

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No, we have redefined marriage many a time in this country. We changed it in 1756 when we abolished Common Law marriage. We did it again when we required marriages to be registered in 1836. And again in the 1880s when we allowed married women to own property rather than be property. And again when we allowed divorce in 1969 and 1973. We redefined marriage with each of these Acts of Parliament. Every. Single. Time.
Still involved man and woman though as a marriage, and same sex violates God very standard itself he have to us!
 

Matt Black

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Still involved man and woman though as a marriage, and same sex violates God very standard itself he have to us!
But adversely affects no one other than the protagonists (and apparently the occasional baker); I think we should be much more concerned about policies that negatively impact vast swathes of people...
 

Yeshua1

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Yes, like looking after the poor. If you.dont think that's a matter of Biblical morality then I would question what Bible you're reading
It is, but jesus did not tell us big giot handles that, but the church and charitable free will offerings!
 

Matt Black

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He didn't say either. We know that purely relying on private charity - church based or otherwise - does not work
 

Revmitchell

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But adversely affects no one other than the protagonists (and apparently the occasional baker); I think we should be much more concerned about policies that negatively impact vast swathes of people...

It effects the break down of the societal understanding of what marriage should be. Civil societies cannot be sustained without the Judeo-Christian understanding of marriage and families. It is like trying to use a toy train as a submarine. It doesn't work as it is far from God's design for the family. You cannot change the design established by the designer and expect it will work.
 

Matt Black

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And yet the divorce reform laws cited by me upthread caused far more damage to both that understanding of marriage and society. I don't recall for example a shed load of straight married couples heading for the divorce courts once gay marriage was legalised here
 

church mouse guy

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And yet the divorce reform laws cited by me upthread caused far more damage to both that understanding of marriage and society. I don't recall for example a shed load of straight married couples heading for the divorce courts once gay marriage was legalised here

Why defend the indefensible?
 

Matt Black

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I'm not. But I am a finite being and there are more important issues for me than a rather unhealthy at times obsession with sex
 

church mouse guy

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I'm not. But I am a finite being and there are more important issues for me than a rather unhealthy at times obsession with sex

Part of the reason for the chaos in the West is the permissiveness of the left that defies logic. There has never been a successful leftist society. They all end up as bankrupt welfare states. Europe cannot assimilate Muslims because they do not want to assimilate and remain hostile and contemptuous of Europe. They would throw all gays and lesbians off the roof of the tallest building in London if they could.
 

Yeshua1

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But adversely affects no one other than the protagonists (and apparently the occasional baker); I think we should be much more concerned about policies that negatively impact vast swathes of people...
So what God thinks on this means zilch?
 

Matt Black

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So what God thinks on this means zilch?
I find it entertaining how you and CMG seem to think I've said things that I haven't! Yes, it matters to God. But primarily surely that's between God and the individuals concerned. You can't legislate morality, only the Gospel and the Holy Spirit can effect the change necessary. Meanwhile our poor suffer when we obsess over sex! So preach the Gospel, pray for the Spirit, pay your taxes and give alms with good cheer, thus doing your bit, and leave the rest to God!
 
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