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Mixed Swimming - Acceptable or Not?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by mnw, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. Baptist in Richmond

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    A point worth noting is that the bikini is not really designed for swimming.

    Growing up in Florida, I did an extensive amount of mixed swimming. I have never had a problem with it, and had never understood the outcry I have seen by some. I am not criticizing their conviction, nor do I question it. I can even respect someone's personal conviction with respect to this subject, provided that they keep their personal conviction..... personal. Consequently, I choose simply to ignore those who would impose their personal convictions on me.

    Regards,
    BiR (in Atlanta)
     
  2. DeeJay

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    Bapmom. Maybe I misunderstand what mixed swiming is. Is it ok to take my kids to the public swim pool this summer.

    If a one piece swim suit is not modist what should she wear.

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    I found this on a google search for modest swim suits. :smilewinkgrin:
     
  3. bapmom

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    DeeJay,

    going to a ridiculous extreme is not a valid argument to what Im saying. Although I did like your little pictures up there,.....very colorful. :)

    We were questioning mixed swimming because of what most people think of as swimwear. My kids wear swim suits....under a T-shirt and culottes(girls) or knee-length shorts(boys). They wear these sorts of clothes even though they do not swim in mixed groups (besides their brothers and sisters). My kids do not feel persecuted by this, because we do not make it a big grim ordeal. Its a fun swim time. And they have fun, too! We do not turn it into a monologue on "all those other people and what THEY are wearing." We simply wear what we wear and go on with our lives. And no, we do not go to public swimming pools because of what other people wear there. If I believe that it is not right for other people to see me and mine dressed immodestly, then logically I could not purposely take them somewhere where they will by definition see other people dressed immodestly.

    BTW, DeeJay,
    If I or anyone else were to have mocked and poked fun at YOUR standard in this issue you would have been quite upset and Im sure someone would have called us "unloving and legalistic." Yet interestingly it is you who have chosen to begin the mocking. :)
     
  4. DeeJay

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    It was humor, you know joking.

    Seriously then what do you do about other places. You cant go to the mall or the park. You could never go to a beach walk past a magazine rack.

    I think I need to alow my kids to live on this earth. I talk to them about modisty when they swim (in a public pool) they go in a one peice covered by a t shirt. When they get into the water they remove the shirt. They are just there to swim.

    I dont think I can spend the next 18 years with my hands over their eyes. And what happens at 18 when I have to remove my hand.

    BTW going to the rediculous extreme is what this whole tread had done. That was my point.
     
  5. Shiloh

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    It's wrong for a Christian......that's goes without saying. However the same goes for some of the clothing girls are wearing in church these days. It looks like some one put it on them with a paint sprayer.
     
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    Maybe this is the kind of swimsuit you should try to find:

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  7. saturneptune

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    A person looking for an opportunity to practice sin will find it wherever he or she goes. If a person, for example, is looking for a way to leer, gaze, and lust after a woman, he will find a way to do so, whether or not mixed swimming is allowed or not. By the same token, a person in a right relationship with God can swim in mixed company without a second thought of lusting.

    The same can be said for dancing, the internet, movies, etc. A person looking for evil will find it. This very internet you are posting on has some of the most vile web sites for the right amount of money. The Pharisees had lots of rules, but they did not love God.

    If a person has a problem in the area of lust, then stay away from the temptation. That does not mean mixed swimming is wrong, it means the person is a weak Christian in that area.
     
  8. J.D.

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    Saturneptune said "a person in a right relationship with God can swim in mixed company without a second thought of lusting."

    Are you a male of the species? If so, look me right in my virtural eyes and say that. Are you telling me that you can hang around all that female skin and shape and not lust? Is that how I know if I'm right with God - if I become immune to lust? Did you really mean to say that?
     
  9. saturneptune

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    Maybe your virtual eye could read what I said about second thought. The word second thought means there was a first thought. Of course no one is immune to lust. However, a person who is walking with the Lord dismisses the thought, turns it over to him, and does not give it a second thought. If you give it a second thought, you are sinning. If you are sinning, stay away. The point is that a person too weak to handle the situation should have sense enough to stay away. That fact is not justification for making a rule of no mixed swimming. If you like a bunch of do and dont rules, become a Pharisee.
     
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  10. Pipedude

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    Whether or not it evokes lust, immodesty is wrong.

    Can you tell when something is immodest, or are you helpless in this area?

    If you cannot tell when something is immodest, and you therefore think that it's a matter of taste, then there's nothing more to say.
     
  11. DeeJay

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    Is it just me....am I the only female who reads threads like this and feels "dirty" and "unclean" for having a "shape"?


    Men have no control of themselves regardless of whether women wear bikinis or burkas???


    This thread isn't about modesty. Apparently, it's about man's inability to control his thoughts and his flesh nature and about women being made to bear the guilt and shame of it.
     
  13. James_Newman

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    I don't know, I think DeeJay is on to something with the burkha idea. I will never allow my daughter to put on a 'bathing suit' and swim with boys. I used to be one and I know what goes on in their rattly little heads.
     
  14. Helen

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    If you are there to socialize, cover up. If you are there to swim, then swim. And a bathing suit (one piece is best for actual swimming!) is the best clothing for that. There are really pretty cover-ups to wear at swim parties and beach parties which don't feel out of place at all and are still very feminine and modest and fun to wear. But if you are actually swimming or diving, extra clothing can not only get in the way, but be a danger.

    By the way, guys, those tight swim trunks which show everything plus are quite an embarrassment to many of us gals.
     
  15. Magnetic Poles

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    Good point, Helen. I wonder how many of the guys promoting burqas would cover more of their own flesh so as to not cause lust in the heart of the ladies.
     
  16. Helen

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    Girls aren't like guys that way. When I see a guy in one of those things I don't feel lust. I feel a little more like I want to throw up.
     
  17. Magnetic Poles

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    Maybe not you, but some women do struggle with this. Sauce for the goose!
     
  18. DeeJay

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    I had to look that one up.

    What an interesting idea. I hope all you that are so against mixed swiming dont watch basketball where the men have naked arms and naked legs. And I hope you dont watch football where the men have tight pants. Or any sport with cheerleaders involved.

    How many of you would let your son play for the high school basketball team?
     
  19. DeeJay

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    We dont have much Nascar around here so I am not to informed. But I googled it to see, there seams to be alot of nascar girls with very little clothing. There is even a Nascar team sponsered by a polular restaurant that specalizes in hot wings and has something to do with an owl.

    How many Nascar fans here? I know there are some.
     
  20. eyeball

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    Well, NASCAR is also very prominently sponsored by several very large beer companies that adorn their vehicles with very large advertisements, to say nothing of the Pfizer car, whose main products which treats... a very private and non-life-threatening condition. You get the idea. The restaurant in question is hardly the bottom of the barrel as far as Baptist ought to be concerned with regarding NASCAR.
     
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