MN GOP attack MAGAsota

[church mouse guy]

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MAGAsota. Make America Great Again Minnesota – sounds great, doesn’t it? These supporters of President Trump appear to be working on behalf of the President’s reelection bid but there’s just one problem: these scammers aren’t affiliated with the official campaign in any way, shape or form.

"The MAGAsota folks are diverting valuable volunteer time to an effort that will have a marginal effect on the actual election. Remember, Minnesota has not voted for a Republican Presidential candidate since 1972 so it will take everyone “rowing the boat” in the same direction. The Trump campaign is working with the Republican National Committee (RNC), the Minnesota Republican Party, the National Republican Campaign Committee (NRCC) and the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) in a coordinated effort to identify and turn out voters for President Trump and all Republican candidates on the ballot in 2020. There has never been a more robust effort in the state of Minnesota. Efforts like MAGAsota look good on the surface but without coordination with the real campaigns, ultimately result in a waste of valuable volunteer time."

MAGAsota and Trump Club of Minnesota SCAMS - Minnesota Scammers EXPOSED | Exposing the grifters of Minnesota conservative politics

The GOP in Minnesota has attacked as scammers a grass-roots organization of volunteers called MAGAsota. I think that some of them are Jewish Republicans but I am in Indianapolis not Minneapolis. Marni Hockenberg replied to the establishment GOP:

"...But this is only backfiring because I am hearing from a ton of people that they like our approach in garnering support for Trump. Every day MN citizens like to go to meet ups and get to know other Trump supporters. But the problem is that we don't tow the party line. We take a different approach to finding Trump voters, many of whom are Independents, disenfranchised Democrats and others who just want to focus on Trump.

"Remember, President Trump is an outsider and that is a major part of his appeal. He is trying to drain the swamp. And St Paul is very swampy as evidenced by this smear campaign.

"I can assure you that this only serves to double down on our commitment to see Magasota grow and provide the kind of grass roots activism that our country was founded on. And let's hope that the MN GOP stops wasting time and YOUR tax payer dollars smearing Trump supporters and starts working to represent true Conservative values, as they are paid to do. MAGASOTA BABY!"

I tend to believe her because she was a friend of the murdered Philip Haney.

 

[InTheLight]

A good friend of mine is a mid-level member of the Republican Party, a state delegate, and a big Trump supporter. He was at the Minnesota caucuses on Tuesday night. I will ask him about MAGAsota.

 

[church mouse guy]

A good friend of mine is a mid-level member of the Republican Party, a state delegate, and a big Trump supporter. He was at the Minnesota caucuses on Tuesday night. I will ask him about MAGAsota.

Thank you!

 

[Particular]

All the Dems have to do is make Amy Klobuchar the VP candidate and they will win MN in a landslide. No one even runs against Klobuchar when up for Senate election. She is revered in Minnesota.

Of course, if Bernie wins the nomination, the Republicans have a chance. But, otherwise it is best not to waste too many resources in MN.

 

[InTheLight]

All the Dems have to do is make Amy Klobuchar the VP candidate and they will win MN in a landslide. No one even runs against Klobuchar when up for Senate election. She is revered in Minnesota.

Klobuchar faced Jim Newberger in the US Senate race in 2018. She won 60% to 36%.
In 2012 she faced Kurt Bills and won 65% to 31%.
In 2006 she faced Mark Kennedy and won 58% to 38%.

According to the latest Minnesota Poll, Klobuchar leads Sanders, 29% to 23%, with 21% undecided, and a margin of error of 4.5%. Your "revered" Amy Klobuchar is not even getting one-third of the vote in her home state.

Star Tribune/MPR News Minnesota Poll results: Klobuchar, Sanders lead Democratic field


Meanwhile, Sanders is raising more money than Kloubuchar among individual donors.

Bernie Sanders gets the most cash from Minnesota small-dollar donors
Sanders out-raised Klobuchar among Minnesotans

Bernie Sanders gets the most cash from Minnesota small-dollar donors

 

[Particular]

Klobuchar faced Jim Newberger in the US Senate race in 2018. She won 60% to 36%.
In 2012 she faced Kurt Bills and won 65% to 31%.
In 2006 she faced Mark Kennedy and won 58% to 38%.

According to the latest Minnesota Poll, Klobuchar leads Sanders, 29% to 23%, with 21% undecided, and a margin of error of 4.5%. Your "revered" Amy Klobuchar is not even getting one-third of the vote in her home state.

Star Tribune/MPR News Minnesota Poll results: Klobuchar, Sanders lead Democratic field


Meanwhile, Sanders is raising more money than Kloubuchar among individual donors.

Bernie Sanders gets the most cash from Minnesota small-dollar donors
Sanders out-raised Klobuchar among Minnesotans

Bernie Sanders gets the most cash from Minnesota small-dollar donors

Did you miss that I placed her as a possible VP?

Second, the GOP tosses scraps into their candidates in MN. It is a waste of resources. Just concede MN and move on.

 

[InTheLight]

Did you miss that I placed her as a possible VP?

No, I saw it. You also said "no one runs against her" and that "she's revered in Minnesota". Since the VP comment was conjecture, not much to say about it. But since your other two statements are demonstrably false, I commented on them.

Second, the GOP tosses scraps into their candidates in MN. It is a waste of resources. Just concede MN and move on.

There is a very real possibility that Trump can take Minnesota this time. Here are the results from 2016:

2016
Clinton: 1,367,716 50.8%
Trump: 1,322,951 49.2%

2012
Obama 52.7%
Romney 45.0%

 

[Particular]

No, I saw it. You also said "no one runs against her" and that "she's revered in Minnesota". Since the VP comment was conjecture, not much to say about it. But since your other two statements are demonstrably false, I commented on them.



There is a very real possibility that Trump can take Minnesota this time. Here are the results from 2016:

2016
Clinton: 1,367,716 50.8%
Trump: 1,322,951 49.2%

2012
Obama 52.7%
Romney 45.0%

With the struggles farmers went through this past year and the fact that Minnesota's Democratic Party is called the DFL (Democratic, Farmers & Labor) I wouldn't spend much money in that State.

 

[InTheLight]

With the struggles farmers went through this past year and the fact that Minnesota's Democratic Party is called the DFL (Democratic, Farmers & Labor) I wouldn't spend much money in that State.

You are so clueless. Yes, the Minnesota Democratic Party is called the Democratic Farmer-Labor party, a moniker which is probably 100 years old and no longer has much of anything to do with farming, and very little to do with labor.

"State party has dumb name. Farmers struggle. Not spend money there."--Particular

 

[Particular]

You are so clueless. Yes, the Minnesota Democratic Party is called the Democratic Farmer-Labor party, a moniker which is probably 100 years old and no longer has much of anything to do with farming, and very little to do with labor.

"State party has dumb name. Farmers struggle. Not spend money there."--Particular

Remind me again when the last Republican Presidential candidate won Minnesota in an election. 1972 with tricky Dick?

The only way Trump has a chance is if Bernie gets the Democratic Party nomination. In that case Democratic centrists may stay home, which would tip the scale to Trump. But, any democratic candidate that even smacks of leaning center will beat Donald Trump in Minnesota. Why? Because the biggest metro in Minnesota is hard left. They voted in Omar for goodness sakes. Both their mayor's are far left and their governor is far left.
You're free to think what you want, but I don't see Minnesota as a State where Trump would waste money.
The only reason to spend money on ads is because the TV market would reach into Wisconsin, Iowa and both Dakota's where Trump may have a chance.

 

[InTheLight]

Remind me again when the last Republican Presidential candidate won Minnesota in an election. 1972 with tricky Dick?

The only way Trump has a chance is if Bernie gets the Democratic Party nomination. In that case Democratic centrists may stay home, which would tip the scale to Trump. But, any democratic candidate that even smacks of leaning center will beat Donald Trump in Minnesota. Why? Because the biggest metro in Minnesota is hard left. They voted in Omar for goodness sakes. Both their mayor's are far left and their governor is far left.
You're free to think what you want, but I don't see Minnesota as a State where Trump would waste money.
The only reason to spend money on ads is because the TV market would reach into Wisconsin, Iowa and both Dakota's where Trump may have a chance.

I've lived in Minnesota my entire life. I've been following the politics here for the last 50 years. I think I've got a better handle on it than you do. The metro area is definitely Democrat territory. But as you move into the suburbs it starts to change. Minnesota is a bipolar state. The metro is Democrats, outstate is solidly Republican. Minnesota is the ONLY state in the union with a split legislature.

I'm not saying Trump WILL WIN Minnesota, but I'm saying he's got a real good chance, good enough to spend money here to try to win it. His campaign seems to think they can win Minnesota and I would put them as another entity that knows the politics here better than you.

 

[Particular]

I've lived in Minnesota my entire life. I've been following the politics here for the last 50 years. I think I've got a better handle on it than you do. The metro area is definitely Democrat territory. But as you move into the suburbs it starts to change. Minnesota is a bipolar state. The metro is Democrats, outstate is solidly Republican. Minnesota is the ONLY state in the union with a split legislature.

I'm not saying Trump WILL WIN Minnesota, but I'm saying he's got a real good chance, good enough to spend money here to try to win it. His campaign seems to think they can win Minnesota and I would put them as another entity that knows the politics here better than you.

The question you have to ask is whether voting immigrants (new US citizens) will lean left or right. Given President Trump's perceived position on immigration, will all those immigrants in Minnesota move toward the Democrats or Republicans?
I highly doubt Trump wins Minnesota and I don't think he should waste much money in your State. Like your sports teams you will end up being disappointed.

 

[777]

Oh, I think Trump can take Minnesota, but it's going to depend on who he's up against. Almost certain it will one of the three Bs, but at least it's worth a shot for Trump to try. He is an incumbent and they are always in campaign mode, he could just hold another rally in the state.

Amy what's-her-face is supposedly very difficult to work with, her personality alone will probably prevent her from being on the bottom of the ticket. From everything I've seen, she's not all that popular, even in the state.

Star Tribune/MPR News Minnesota Poll results: Klobuchar, Sanders lead Democratic field

up by only six for Super Tuesday there, and check out all those undecideds this late. Yep, Trump should go for it.

 

[church mouse guy]

Oh, I think Trump can take Minnesota, but it's going to depend on who he's up against. Almost certain it will one of the three Bs, but at least it's worth a shot for Trump to try. He is an incumbent and they are always in campaign mode, he could just hold another rally in the state.

Amy what's-her-face is supposedly very difficult to work with, her personality alone will probably prevent her from being on the bottom of the ticket. From everything I've seen, she's not all that popular, even in the state.

Star Tribune/MPR News Minnesota Poll results: Klobuchar, Sanders lead Democratic field

up by only six for Super Tuesday there, and check out all those undecideds this late. Yep, Trump should go for it.

The establishment GOP does not want Jewish votes. The GOP lost the Muslim vote long ago when Bush started all the wars. Jews left the GOP for FDR. Most Jews are still Democrats but some are leaving but the GOP is still globalist at the country club and not really for Trump.

 

[Adonia]

I've lived in Minnesota my entire life. I've been following the politics here for the last 50 years. I think I've got a better handle on it than you do. The metro area is definitely Democrat territory. But as you move into the suburbs it starts to change. Minnesota is a bipolar state. The metro is Democrats, outstate is solidly Republican. Minnesota is the ONLY state in the union with a split legislature.

I had always saw Midwesterners as a "go it alone" group of people who could take care of themselves and didn't need government help. Boy was I wrong!

I lived in Iowa for 10 years and many of my farmer in-laws were all getting government money. Then it was up north with all the Minnesotans voting for big government Democrats. So much for a solid and self reliant midwestern people.

 

[church mouse guy]

I had always saw Midwesterners as a "go it alone" group of people who could take care of themselves and didn't need government help. Boy was I wrong!

I lived in Iowa for 10 years and many of my farmer in-laws were all getting government money. Then it was up north with all the Minnesotans voting for big government Democrats. So much for a solid and self reliant midwestern people.

Farmers went Democrat during the Great Depression and the GOP has never seriously done anything to undo the New Deal Agricultural programs. That was one of the big disappointments with Indiana Senator Richard Lugar in that he understood farm policy but did nothing to bring back a free market to farming. Indiana farmers are now getting very rich off the ethanol mandate, which says that ten percent of gasoline must be corn alcohol so the taxpayer now has a bigger grocery bill and gets lower gas mileage and pays agricultural subsidy. I happen to live in an upper-middle-class suburban area, which does have some farming, but we have a federal agricultural agent in an area that is rapidly becoming solid city. Ethanol is really stupid because no one can have an emergency supply of gasoline without expensive additives to keep it stable. In case of emergency, the country will suffer because of the greed of farmers. Trump at first said that he would end ethanol subsidies, but he later had to abandon that promise in order to win the farm vote. Maybe that is why he chose the very bland Pence as his V-P--to shore up the farm vote.

As for Minnesota, they are a rich state with a lot of people who used to like big government. If the GOP can stop fighting amongst themselves, maybe the GOP can swing the state for Trump--I think that they will.

People are tired of government telling them what size soft drink they can buy at a fast food place and who can use what washroom and that males can compete in female sports, etc. The high levels of debt in both the private sector and the public sector are the warning sign that the bridge across the chasm has washed out and any attempt to continue borrowing money and printing money will put the entire population in a deep pit with the whole world waiting to invade and conquer for our wealth.