Moderna Vaccine: It Looks Safe, May Need Two Doses, Now To Test It In 30,000 People

[KenH]

Well there have been two or three threads here about it.

Bottom line, I have no objection to getting shots. If you don’t want to, then don’t. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[church mouse guy]

Bottom line, I have no objection to getting shots. If you don’t want to, then don’t. Different strokes for different folks.

To an extent class determines destiny in this pandemic. I am as poor as a church mouse but I live and work on the edge of a prosperous area. I lost fear of this disease some time ago because the death rate is roughly 1/2 of 1 percent. Regular flu is more deadly. The rich say for you to stay away from them because they don't want what you have. My sentiments exactly.

 

[KenH]

Regular flu is more deadly.

Regular flu death rate is about 1/10
of 1%.

 

[church mouse guy]

Regular flu death rate is about 1/10
of 1%.

Apparently from 29 to 69 thousand people die of flu every year. With this virus, it should disappear after this pandemic.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Bottom line, I have no objection to getting shots. If you don’t want to, then don’t. Different strokes for different folks.

Just to understand your position more clearly, then if I have no objection to them experimenting on you or your progeny, in other words volunteer you or yours for experimentation, do you agree that they should be allowed? Remember, this is brand new with no long term results available.

 

[KenH]

Remember, this is brand new with no long term results available.

There is a testing programming at Baptist Health in Little Rock that just announced it is looking for volunteers. If I wasn’t 120 miles away, I would seriously consider volunteering.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

There is a testing programming at Baptist Health in Little Rock that just announced it is looking for volunteers. If I wasn’t 120 miles away, I would seriously consider volunteering.

The question was a general one, not about this specific vaccine. You don't get to pick and choose what experiment you or your progeny will be volunteered for. That is the nature of the issue.

Are you willing to be volunteered for whatever experiment someone else chooses? You seem rather cavalier with your just-suck-it-up attitude, so I'm interested to what degree it applies to yourself.

But since you're not even willing to drive a few measly miles in this case, there are obviously serious limits to it.

 

[KenH]

Are you willing to be volunteered for whatever experiment someone else chooses?

I am opposed to all forms of draft. I consider them to be in the same league with slavery.

 

[Scott Downey]

Regular flu death rate is about 1/10
of 1%.

People who would have died of flu if exposed to flu are the same who die of covid when exposed to covid.

 

[InTheLight]

People who would have died of flu if exposed to flu are the same who die of covid when exposed to covid.

Thanks again, Dr. Downey.

 

[Calminian]

People who would have died of flu if exposed to flu are the same who die of covid when exposed to covid.

Maybe fewer, in fact. Flu is more dangerous, especially to younger people, just less contagious. At least, that's what I'm hearing.

 

[Alofa Atu]

“The researchers also found high concentrations in the participants’ blood of antibodies that might protect against the coronavirus. Gill says that finding, along with the safety data in the study, provide ample evidence that Moderna was correct to forge ahead with their vaccine. If the biotech is successful in the subsequent phase two and three clinical trials, Gill says, that would be the key to bringing the vaccine to market.”

It will kill billions over time, millions in the near future, and hundreds of thousands within a few months, and thousands within days.

http://supernaturalresources.epizy.com/violent-vaccines-vexxated-injection-of-reality/

What do you care ...

The Vaccination Crisis – Harvest Time Books – Vance Ferrell (PDF)

CDC – Excipient List – Whats in Vaccines – Table 2 (PDF)

Murder By Injection – Eustace Mullins (PDF)

 

[Calminian]

It will kill billions over time, millions in the near future, and hundreds of thousands within a few months, and thousands within days.

http://supernaturalresources.epizy.com/violent-vaccines-vexxated-injection-of-reality/

What do you care ...

The Vaccination Crisis – Harvest Time Books – Vance Ferrell (PDF)

CDC – Excipient List – Whats in Vaccines – Table 2 (PDF)

Murder By Injection – Eustace Mullins (PDF)

I'm sure your evidence will be forthcoming in the next few days.

 

[Scott Downey]

Maybe fewer, in fact. Flu is more dangerous, especially to younger people, just less contagious. At least, that's what I'm hearing.

Yes, my point is people who are likely to do of one are likely to also die of the other. Those people have the same susceptibility. Meaning for me, if covid did not kill them the flu will, if they are going to be exposed to either virus.

I just heard on NBC news, 31% of children tested for covid were positive to covid. So the exposure I suppose is going around, maybe a herd immunity will develop, which is a good thing, because if enough people are exposed and infected, the virus has nowhere else to go, because everywhere it goes, it finds a priorly infected person, and it dies out.

 

[Wingman68]

Yes, here you go

Which COVID-19 Vaccines Are Being Developed with Aborted Babies?
Several COVID-19 vaccine frontrunners, including those being developed by Moderna, Oxford University/AstraZeneca, CanSino Biologics/Beijing Institute of Biotechnology, and Inovio Pharmaceuticals, are using a human fetal kidney cell line called HEK-293 to develop their trial vaccines. HEK-293 was originally derived from kidney tissue taken from a baby girl who was aborted in the Netherlands in 1972 and later developed into a cell line in a lab in 1973.

Will this be a concern for you?, my wife absolutely says NO to getting such a vaccine, but she would agree to an ethical one not derived from an aborted infant. If you receive this vaccine your benefitting from the abortion of this infant, and if you are opposed to abortion it ought to be a concern. These are late term abortions, with developed baby organs that they use.

Other companies are making vaccines which are ethically derived, not from aborted baby girls and boys.

ITL often orders crow, but then refuses to eat it, sending it back to the kitchen saying this crow is not up to my msm standards.

 

[carpro]

“The researchers also found high concentrations in the participants’ blood of antibodies that might protect against the coronavirus.

Moderna Vaccine Looks Safe, May Need Two Doses. Now To Test It In 30,000 People

Might?

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I am opposed to all forms of draft. I consider them to be in the same league with slavery.

All forms? You seem to be just fine with drafting that can only be avoided by losing one's job or losing access to tax-paid education. Maybe that's OK for those who can start their own business or establish their own school (will they be refunded their taxes for the purpose?), but not everyone is that capable.

 

[KenH]

that can only be avoided by losing one's job

Employers should be able to set their terms of employment. Likewise, no one should be forced to work for a particular company. Allow the free market to operate.

 

[church mouse guy]

Employers should be able to set their terms of employment. Likewise, no one should be forced to work for a particular company. Allow the free market to operate.

I don't see that an employer should be able to dictate medical treatment to an employee. The county board of health is mandating masks in the workplace in Indianapolis and I think that that is over the top because I do not work very close to anyone. The spike in Indianapolis is attributable to the deadly riots.

 

[KenH]

I don't see that an employer should be able to dictate medical treatment to an employee.

If attempted, the employee can quit if he doesn’t want to do it.