Modesty

[gb93433]

gb, when did I say that this was my conviction?

Sorry about that. I read it wrong.

 

[donnA]

Isaiah 47:2

I fail to see skirt mentioned, or clothing of the average person.
And, once and for all, I do not agree with a thigh high slit. So do not act as if I do.

 

[donnA]

That statement is not exactly true.

I have never seen anyone claim they gained any grace from God because they obeyed Him from the heart and tried to line up with His expectation of His children to be holy.

I can receive favor from God for obedience, but not grace from being obedient.

Grace empowers, not grants permissiveness to sin or dance with sin.

Grace is not favor. Grace is the allowance and power to serve the Lord although we deserve everlasting punishment for our sin.

No where is legalism found in the confines of doing what it takes to find favor with God or as if grace can be merited by our works.

Making the "legalist!" accusation is unwarranted at best.

no it isn't unwarrented, he assumes people aren't saved unless they do as he says. He has posted over and over challenging their salvation.
When one says others must do as they say to be right with God, to please God, thats legalism.
Get over it.

 

[donnA]

This is an interesting concept, one I have not heard.

I have always had the mindset that regardless of all I do, I am still an unprofitable servant. All of my righteousnesses are as filty rags. I am altogether unclean.

If you are correct, then my "obedience" merits favor. Favor for what? For God to do what? To give me what? Anything?

If I am correct, then I and my "obedience" is not the focus anyway. Christ is. He is my focus. Christ is my obedience. My hope. My joy. Solace. Comfort. Peace. Joy. Christ is my today, and my tomorrow. He is all in all. My obedience, imo, is relevant only as I obey in Christ.

If he is correct it means man has more control then God.

 

[ccrobinson]

Sorry about that. I read it wrong.

Thanks, gb. :wavey:

 

[gb93433]

Legalists do not know or understand the grace of God. They are much closer to gnosticism than to God.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I think this is an extreme that the poster you quoted did not intend, nor did it sound like it. Nudity, as in no clothing at all, is not the topic.

The "church me" is dedicated to dress modestly and appropiately as a man of God preaching and teaching those who the Lord has placed under my instruction to live holy and without blame and remain unspotted from the world.

The "at home me" is very likely within the privacy of my home to walk around naked when no one else is around.

So by that estimation there is a difference
I think this is an extreme that the poster you quoted did not intend, nor did it sound like it. Nudity, as in no clothing at all, is not the topic..

I did not post this statement at all. How did this post get attributed to me?

 

[Salamander]

I fail to see skirt mentioned, or clothing of the average person.
And, once and for all, I do not agree with a thigh high slit. So do not act as if I do.

Don't act like I act like you do.

Is 4 gives us a relative thought: since they say they want a name to take away their reproach, yet wear their own apparel, then there is certainly apparel which the name they desire represents different from what they want to wear.

Your choice of only knee length slits is commendable in that it doesn't reveal the thigh. It does reveal the calf and we all know that is an area of attraction for the common male. If this weren't so, then why the hose?:laugh:

 

[Salamander]

no it isn't unwarrented, he assumes people aren't saved unless they do as he says. He has posted over and over challenging their salvation.
When one says others must do as they say to be right with God, to please God, thats legalism.
Get over it.

Being "right with God" is not limited to salvation alone.

If anyone was ever "right with God" and later not right with God we should consider Noah, David, Saul, Samson, Mephibosheth, Abraham, Lot.......

Myself? There are times...

So "get over it!"

 

[Salamander]

Legalists do not know or understand the grace of God. They are much closer to gnosticism than to God.

Go start another one of the humpteen threads on legalism if that's what you want to discuss.

 

[tinytim]

I must be the "exception":laugh:

Sal, you are one of the most unusual KJVOs I know!!

I guess you can say that's a good thing...

 

[Salamander]

This is an interesting concept, one I have not heard.

I have always had the mindset that regardless of all I do, I am still an unprofitable servant. All of my righteousnesses are as filty rags. I am altogether unclean.

Before salvation, yes, you would be right, but not after, or else Jesus is lying when he proclaims,"Enter into my rest,thou good and faithful servant"

If you are correct, then my "obedience" merits favor. Favor for what? For God to do what? To give me what? Anything?

The light of His countenance upon our lives in blessings which this world cannot understand.

Since our sacrifice is not equal with our obedience, then we can assume there is reward for obeying the Lord, especially in the area of salvation, then later, service.

If I am correct, then I and my "obedience" is not the focus anyway. Christ is. He is my focus. Christ is my obedience. My hope. My joy. Solace. Comfort. Peace. Joy. Christ is my today, and my tomorrow. He is all in all. My obedience, imo, is relevant only as I obey in Christ.

Yep, couldn't have said it any better myself.

 

[Salamander]

Sal, you are one of the most unusual KJVOs I know!!

I guess you can say that's a good thing...

I just KNOW better!:laugh:

 

[Salamander]

If he is correct it means man has more control then God.

Wrong! Submission is on our part to serve the Lord as Lord of all.

We do not serve a tyrant, but a loving God who rewards his children for their obedience. take giving to missions: the Lord has definitely blessed my obedience when he moved upon my heart to see that missionaries can be sent to other areas he didn't call me to go to specifically!:godisgood:

 

[ccrobinson]

I did not post this statement at all. How did this post get attributed to me?

Roger, I think this was an honest mistake. Take a look at post #148 a few pages back and I think you'll see what happened.

 

[Salamander]

I "fixed it". when I finally got the "[ ]" like they should be it straightened it out on my post.

 

[gb93433]

Go start another one of the humpteen threads on legalism if that's what you want to discuss.

Did the shoe fit?

 

[annsni]

Your choice of only knee length slits is commendable in that it doesn't reveal the thigh. It does reveal the calf and we all know that is an area of attraction for the common male. If this weren't so, then why the hose?:laugh:

The hose are an invention of Satan and they will not go on my legs.

SHUDDER

YOU try wearing those things!!

 

[donnA]

The hose are an invention of Satan and they will not go on my legs.

SHUDDER

YOU try wearing those things!!

LOL, I quite agree with Ann, the hose is an evil invention by satan to torture women.

 

[donnA]

Wrong! Submission is on our part to serve the Lord as Lord of all.

We do not serve a tyrant, but a loving God who rewards his children for their obedience. take giving to missions: the Lord has definitely blessed my obedience when he moved upon my heart to see that missionaries can be sent to other areas he didn't call me to go to specifically!:godisgood:

What your staing then is we earn God favor and reward, thus, we gain what we want, God must reward me, I am in control.