Thank you so much for all of this info!! It will be helpful should I speak to this family again who has fallen for Moorman's teachings. And the fact that this thread was started and continued by a "TR guy" means a lot. It shows that you don't have a thing against the text that underlies the KJV (which is a big argument that KJVOliers use) but that you want the truth. The clear and honest truth. Thank you again for all of your hard work John!