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More news from Donetsk the Western media won't touch

asterisktom

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"Today| Donetsk came under one of the most powerful attacks in all the years of the war

In the last two hours alone, Ukrainian thugs fired 300 missiles [MLRS missiles] and shells into the city, according to the People's Militia [Armed Forces] of the DPR. Several of them got into the main entrance of the maternity hospital of the Vishnevskiy hospital. Staff, women in labor, children were not injured. Everyone was evacuated in advance to the basement of the medical facility.

Under artillery fire today are the Kyivskiy, Voroshilovskiy, Kuibyshevskiy, Kirovskiy, Budyonnovskiy districts of Donetsk. Eyewitnesses report about shelling and smoke in the Leninskiy district of the city.

According to preliminary information, today 4 people were killed and 25 were injured. The data on the victims is being updated.

In the photo
- shell hit car at yard of the Vishnevskiy hospital.

Source local media
https://t.me/donvremya/6598

More photos here
https://t.me/donvremya/6600

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"What you will read and see in this publication is a daily routine in the Donbass, in Lugansk and Donetsk republics. Since May 2014, the Ukrainian regime, no matter what the name of the president, has been killing former citizens and destroying their homes and places of work. For the fact that they did not want to live in a state in which neo-Nazis came to power, with the direct participation of the US and the EU. This is what happened today on June 13, for an incomplete day of life in one of the cities of the Donetsk Republic. The days of the occupation of Donbass are numbered, but the Ukrainian fascists are striving to inflict as much damage as possible on the rebel republics.

"Ukrainian thugs shelled the Kyiv district of Donetsk, using the MLRS "Grad", the hospital was damaged. This was announced today by the head of the city administration Alexei Kulemzin.

“As a result of the shelling of the Kievskiy district, a gas pipeline caught fire near the gas station along Shchorsa Street, 108. The roof was damaged along Roza Luxembourg Street, 111a (MIA hospital) ”, the mayor noted.

Earlier, the JCCC reported that the Kyiv army launched strikes from the Grad MLRS in the Kyiv and Kuibyshevskiy districts of the city. The launching was carried out from the area of the occupied Avdeevka."

https://dan-news.info/pravoporyadok/zdanie-bolnicy-v-..

A large-scale fire broke out in the east of Donetsk after being hit by 155 mm artillery shells

"Ukrainian thugs attacked the Budennovskiy district of Donetsk from artillery during the day. This was announced today by the Headquarters of the Territorial Defense of the DPR.

“From the positions of the AFU in Orlovka (near Avdeevka — approx. DAN), the [Ukrainian] thugs attacked in the direction of the Maiskiy market, NATO 155-mm artillery is used against the population”, the headquarters noted.

According to the JCCC, three artillery shells of 155 mm caliber (NATO standard) were fired at the Budennovskiy district."

https://dan-news.info/defence/masshtabnyj-pozhar-vozn..

Photos by DAN [Donetsk News Agency] from the Mayskiy market in the Budennovskiy district of Donetsk, which came under fire of AFU.

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According to the Headquarters of Territorial Defense, 3 people were killed and 4 injured. As previously reported by the corr. DAN, there is a child among those killed."

https://t.me/DonetskNewsAgency/3735
 
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canadyjd

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Thank God no women or children were killed in the first mentioned attack.

Beyond that, I don’t believe Russian propaganda.

peace to you
 

asterisktom

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I don't want to buy western propaganda.

The links above are not Western propaganda. They are from the East. There is truth as well as propaganda in those links. It requires careful sifting to sort one from the other.
 

asterisktom

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so a country that was unjustly attacked is a bunch of thugs?

Are you referring to the hundreds of missiles that the Kiev government sent into the Donbas for going on 9 years now? In spite of a peace accord? Yes, that was thuggish.

No, you are referring to the response. I assume you dont know about the earlier years long provocations.
 

Conan

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The links above are not Western propaganda. They are from the East. There is truth as well as propaganda in those links. It requires careful sifting to sort one from the other.
I did not mean to imply that they were. I am just sick of Western, meaning, American lies. I believed these lies for most of my life. Just wanted to speak against USA propaganda. Sorry to do it on your thread.
 

Conan

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And so we stare at each other across the pond, accusations of propaganda flying while people are being killed.

Come Lord Jesus

peace to you
Across the pond? I assumed you were in Canada. Glad you don't like Russian propaganda. Hope you don't like American propaganda as well.
 

asterisktom

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I did not mean to imply that they were. I am just sick of Western, meaning, American lies. I believed these lies for most of my life. Just wanted to speak against USA propaganda. Sorry to do it on your thread.

No problem.

And I agree that propaganda is on all sides. Yet truth can still be sifted from it, like a miner panning for gold.
 

Revmitchell

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Are you referring to the hundreds of missiles that the Kiev government sent into the Donbas for going on 9 years now? In spite of a peace accord? Yes, that was thuggish.

No, you are referring to the response. I assume you dont know about the earlier years long provocations.

sigh do you have any sources to back that up? Also why is putin not talking about it
 

canadyjd

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Across the pond? I assumed you were in Canada. Glad you don't like Russian propaganda. Hope you don't like American propaganda as well.
“Across the pond” = Across the ocean

I don’t like propaganda, period. What I know is that in the late 1990’s several countries signed an agreement that if Ukraine gave up its nukes, Russia promised to recognize its borders and the U.S. and Britain (and others I think) promised to aid Ukraine if Russia broke its promise.

Russia has since attempted to instal a pro Russian leader in Ukraine and the U.S. has worked in the background to thwart Russian efforts in Ukraine. Russia invaded and captured the Crimean peninsula about 8 years ago, and Russian has been supporting pro Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine provinces seeking independence from Ukraine in violation of the aforementioned agreement.

Meanwhile, Ukraine’s government has been mired in corruption and scandals, while attempting to suppress the rebellion in the east. The new president of Ukraine is suppose to be a reformer that was going to stop the corruption. Then came the invasion.

The latest invasion of Russia into Ukraines has killed many many civilians and destroyed entire cities.

BTW, I’m from the US

peace to you
 

Conan

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“Across the pond” = Across the ocean

I don’t like propaganda, period. What I know is that in the late 1990’s several countries signed an agreement that if Ukraine gave up its nukes, Russia promised to recognize its borders and the U.S. and Britain (and others I think) promised to aid Ukraine if Russia broke its promise.

Russia has since attempted to instal a pro Russian leader in Ukraine and the U.S. has worked in the background to thwart Russian efforts in Ukraine. Russia invaded and captured the Crimean peninsula about 8 years ago, and Russian has been supporting pro Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine provinces seeking independence from Ukraine in violation of the aforementioned agreement.

Meanwhile, Ukraine’s government has been mired in corruption and scandals, while attempting to suppress the rebellion in the east. The new president of Ukraine is suppose to be a reformer that was going to stop the corruption. Then came the invasion.

The latest invasion of Russia into Ukraines has killed many many civilians and destroyed entire cities.

BTW, I’m from the US

peace to you
I take it you like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR. I take it you think there was an insurrection at the Capitol Jan ? Aren't insurrections violent, armed affairs? Like the one where the Ukrainian nazis removed the guy who said he would not allow arms on Russia's border. Do you believe them when they say Trump is a racist?
To me they are liars and spew propaganda and absolutely love war. Look at all the countries we have destroyed with war. Look at all the countries we shut down with sanctions because they wouldn't go along with what we wanted. Why do we do that?
 
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asterisktom

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sigh do you have any sources to back that up? Also why is putin not talking about it

By "sources" do you mean personal observations and conversations over there - or are you going to limit me only to Western sources that nuance their stories to fit the Agenda?

Putin has been talking about it. I guess the sites you read omit that inconvenient fact.

For starters you might do a search for terms like "Donbas shelling" (or "Donbass"). But avoid co-opted search sites like Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc. Brave, Start, or Yandex give more mixed results.
 
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By "sources" do you mean personal observations and conversations over there - or are you going to limit me only to Western sources that nuance their stories to fit the Agenda?

Putin has been talking about it. I guess the sites you read omit that inconvenient fact.

For starters you might do a search for terms like "Donbas shelling" (or "Donbass"). But avoid co-opted search sites like Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, etc. Brave, Start, or Yandex give more mixed results.
Today God separates people. Events in Ukraine, events related to covid-19, events in Syria, etc. God divides people into those who believe the truth and those who believe lies. A person who seeks truth finds it. A person who seeks something of his own is subject to delusion and receives a perverted mind from God.
 

canadyjd

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I take it you like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR. I take it you think there was an insurrection at the Capitol Jan ? Aren't insurrections violent, armed affairs? Like the one where the Ukrainian nazis removed the guy who said he would not allow arms on Russia's border. Do you believe them when they say Trump is a racist?
To me they are liars and spew propaganda and absolutely love war. Look at all the countries we have destroyed with war. Look at all the countries we shut down with sanctions because they wouldn't go along with what we wanted. Why do we do that?
You did not address anything I posted concerning the recent history in Ukraine, so I suppose I was accurate.

Peace to you
 

AustinC

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LOL, the OP makes it seem like the Ukrainian President is bombing his own people while the Russians are dropping bread and giving humanitarian aid. This is so reminiscent of the propaganda the Soviets did with the Finnish Winter War when the Soviets bombed Helsinki and claimed they were dropping bread. This lead to the dark Finnish humor, telling Foreign Minister Molotov that if he was bringing the bread, they would bring the Vodka. They called their drink the "Molotov Cocktail."

I have friends in the country of Georgia who are helping refugees. The stories are all about Russian human rights abuses.
A church friend is receiving Ukrainian refugees here in the US. Their stories are all about Russian atrocities.

Whatever conspiracy websites and news places the OP is going to...it isn't the reality that refugees are coming with. If you really want to have no propaganda, go talk with the refugees.
 
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