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Most Difficult Concept

agedman

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Always follow your conscience… and allow others to do the same on these kind of issues.

peace to you
I would agree that the believer who tries the spirits to see if it be of God, can follow their conscience.

But those who have no discernment certainly don’t need to follow their conscience.
 

canadyjd

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I would agree that the believer who tries the spirits to see if it be of God, can follow their conscience.

But those who have no discernment certainly don’t need to follow their conscience.
Sure, but who I’m I to tell another believer their conscience isn’t working right on issues that really have no clear biblical commands?

peace to you
 

1689Dave

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I would think if being in the military hindered the believer, there would be a specific illustration of that displayed in the Scriptures. However, God reached the life of both the centurion in the prison and the one who accompanied him in shipwreck, as well as “those in Caesar’s household.”

Although my citizenship is in the Kingdom of the King of kings, I do not have a particular problem with a certain level of allegiance to the rulers in which I am to pray and the constitution under which I live.

Citizenship does have advantages. Was it not used by Paul to minister to those in Rome?

However, should the government decide to discard the constitution, and Texans rise to secede, then just as R.E. Lee and T. Jackson, I will follow where I reside and trust the providence of God.
You cannot find any believer in the NT, except Peter whom Christ rebuked, using violence in self-defense. You only see Paul defending himself with civil law occasionally. Don't add to God's word.
 

canadyjd

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Your conscience can deceive you. Look at Islam. Only God's word can be the guide for your conscience.
For the Christian, God Holy Spirit guides us into all truth as well.

When scripture is not specific, we must allow Christians to follow their conscience with much grace; being convinced in our own minds.

peace to you
 

1689Dave

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For the Christian, God Holy Spirit guides us into all truth as well.

When scripture is not specific, we must allow Christians to follow their conscience with much grace; being convinced in our own minds.

peace to you
How can scripture be non-specific when it says "be not unequally yoked with unbelievers"? Or "love your enemies"? Or "Resist not evil"? Did you know John says any who do not have the Sermon, also do not have God? Quit making excuses for blatant sin and try to follow Christ instead.
 

canadyjd

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How can scripture be non-specific when it says "be not unequally yoked with unbelievers"? Or "love your enemies"? Or "Resist not evil"? Did you know John says any who do not have the Sermon, also do not have God? Quit making excuses for blatant sin and try to follow Christ instead.
I tell you what, don’t accuse me of making excuses for “blatant sin” and of not following my Lord Jesus. That is not true and slanderous.

Whether or not Christians should serve in the military, defend themselves against violence, serve in law enforcement or support the death penalty has been debated by Christian men and women of good conscience for many centuries.

I’m done with discussing this with you.

thanks for the conversation

peace to you
 

1689Dave

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I tell you what, don’t accuse me of making excuses for “blatant sin” and of not following my Lord Jesus. That is not true and slanderous.

Whether or not Christians should serve in the military, defend themselves against violence, serve in law enforcement or support the death penalty has been debated by Christian men and women of good conscience for many centuries.

I’m done with discussing this with you.

thanks for the conversation

peace to you
John says if you do not have the Sermon on the Mount, you do not have God. Proof available for serious discussion.
 
What do you believe to be the most difficult theological concept to understand?

I think for me, the hardest is God being love. This is easily seen in practice (Christ giving Himself) but it is difficult for me to work through.

The resurrection of dead bones when they are raised a spiritual body. I believe it (100%), but the science of it eludes me. I know that Paul spoke of a seed being sown and dying to give life to something entirely different, and I believe Paul too, but ... the reality of it is really difficult to understand.
 

Yeshua1

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The resurrection of dead bones when they are raised a spiritual body. I believe it (100%), but the science of it eludes me. I know that Paul spoke of a seed being sown and dying to give life to something entirely different, and I believe Paul too, but ... the reality of it is really difficult to understand.
The same physicals body that we die in will get raised up and glorified, to be same as the body Jesus now has!
 

Guvnuh

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The Trinity.
I believe it but the depth of it is awesomely confusing and yet clear and profound and on and on and on.

God is ......
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The Trinity.
I believe it but the depth of it is awesomely confusing and yet clear and profound and on and on and on.

God is ......
I realize that I separated the Trinity into 3 separate entities with most of my concentration being on Jesus the Christ whom I could accept as my lord and savior. My problem was with God the Father. I did not have a good relationship with my father who could be demeaning, insulting and down right violent. He was erratic and mercurial and I learned unfaithful to my mother and for years I hated him. As it happened he died when I was 12 yo to my relief. So how could I even dream of relating with a father figure… how could I have a relationship with a God who constantly punishes… took me a long time to understand the relationship.
 
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