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Featured Most Evil Person in American History

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  1. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    Wow! Wish I'd said that!

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    Outstanding! Superb! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

    But do the Yankees really speak English? Who would have thunk?
     
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    Excellent, agedman.
     
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    Are you in touch with reality sir?
     
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    Fort Sumter island is basically a man made structure from the natural shoals of the harbor in which left over and ruined construction stone (mostly granite) was dumped by Yankee builders.

    The fort wasn't even completed and it is silly to consider it other than a construction project in 1861.

    The general in charge of the Union troops left the dirt fort Moultrie and went to Sumter WITHOUT approval rather than surrendering and that was the act of aggression as viewed by the South.

    MONTHS past with a series of requests by the sovereign government of SC asking the fort to be abandoned and for the Union armies to leave. All requests were refused and in fact the Yankee government plotted further incursion by attempting to resupply the fort and make it more defensible.

    Had the good Southern Cadets of the Citadel not done some target practice upon the "Star of the West" the problem would have continued and cost far more lives.

    Even then the Yankee government ratcheted up the tension.

    Lincoln got it in his head to send a whole mess of ships and troops down there. When the first arrived, the good southern gentlemen again asked the fort to be surrendered, but were refused.

    It was not until consultation with the Confederate government, that permission was given to the South Carolina folks to take what belonged to them.

    It was no sudden awakening of the South.

    But the continued goading by the defiant and belligerent Yankees that brought the rebuke of the South upon them. It was their own fault.

    They had plenty of time, and chances to go home.

    The Union WANTED the war. The Yankee bankers and industry WANTED to make the Southern gentlemen and ladies paupers.

    This is proved by the reaction of the NY Yankees.

    When the sorry Yankees finally were taken by the "Star of the West" to NY harbor were they not paraded as heroes?

    Did they actually think that without proper protection and armament they could win?

    No, they were hoping to "stir the pot" so that the Union could have a "just cause" to record in their version of history who started the war.

    But, the true Southerners know the truth.

    It was a Yankee conspiracy built upon greed and power.
     
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    That raid took place 16-18 Oct 1859.


    Here is more on John Brown
     
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    Andrew Jackson set the president for the removal of people off their lands. Many who were forced marched to Oklahoma died. He did it even though the Supreme Court of his day said he did not have the authority.
     
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    Quite the Southern Gentlemen.
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
  10. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    Not true. SCOTUS ruled they had no original jurisdiction to hear the case, and made no such ruling. The Cherokee Nation, and other tribes such as the Seminole and Chocktaw, were independent nations living within the confines of the U.S., having a relationship to the U.S. much as a ward does to his/her guardian. Jackson had every right to move them, though the advisability of doing so is highly questionable and probably immoral. But you cannot claim SCOTUS said he couldn't do it.
     
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    More nonsense. Now John Brown started the civil war. Good golly miss Molly. He was hanged.

    Next, the commander of Fort Sumter said he would abandon the fort on April 15, but the south chose not to wait.

    Then we get "acts of aggression" being equated with firing on Fort Sumter. Next we will get the "devil made me do it" defense. The south started the civil war, seceding and firing on Fort Sumter, because they wanted to continue slavery.

    The defense by the deniers sounds like the rapist saying "she was asking for it."

    Finally we get the "conspiracy theory." They south did not choose to secede, they were tricked into it by the pesky Northerners. They did not fire on Fort Sumter, no it was just some target practice that went awry.

    This is all they have folks, absurdity and insult.
     
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    I think Van's head is about to explode. :laugh:
     
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    HI EWF, no those that deny slavery caused the civil war are not in touch with history, truth, or the wickedness of slavery.
     
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    Has this view, shared by many Americans been rebutted? Nope
     
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    “The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating
    questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it
    exists amongst us, the proper status of the negro in our form of
    civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and
    present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as
    the ‘rock upon which the old Union would split.’ He was right. What
    was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact." Confederate VP
     
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    Yes. Repeatedly.
    BZZZZZZZZZZZT! Wrong answer. But thanks for playing. Johnny has some nice parting gifts for you. But you actually have to "part," thank you.
     
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    Of course the sorry Yankee is going to point fingers and deflect from the truth.

    Truth fact check:

    What person was the FIRST to start armed conflict? Yankee

    What nation was the FIRST to not remove unwanted occupation troops? Yankee

    What nation was the FIRST to invade the South? Yankee

    What nation was the FIRST to commit direct atrocities against defenseless women and children? Yankee

    Did Fort Sumter "belong" to the Yankees? NO.

    Yankee soldiers refused to leave and so the fine Southern gentlemen moved them out. They loaded up the ship and sent them home. They didn't keep them as a POW, nor in any manner abuse them.

    This was certainly NOT the same as the treatment given the Southern sympathizers that were stuck in the north.

    The Yankee designed for decades before the war to manipulate the good southern folk by tariff and laws that directly robed Southerners from balance of power at the federal level and violated the Southern States by robing them of powers and authorities given to the states.

    The Yankee bankers and industry from the get go desired and longed for power over the Southern part of the US and have always portrayed the Southerners as ignorant, back woods and oppressing their slaves. Yet, they themselves would oppress anyone who disagreed with them on religion and oblige children to remain in ignorance that they may work in their sweat factories. What group had the great millstone about their kneck? The Yankee



    When the Yankees couldn't get their way by cunning and deceit, they worked to encourage and force armed conflict.
     
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    Yes agedman, and we ate being tricked again and invaded again. I believe it was a Yankee, Mr. Carrier, who invented the air conditioner and started this new invasion!

    [Just to show the Satanic influence on the invention of the air conditioner, whose sole purpose is to increase the Entropy of the universe and encourage Yankees to invade the South, Mr Carrier's ancestor was hung as a witch on August 19, 1692, on Salem's Gallows Hill. Cotton Mather denounced her as a "rampant hag" whom the Devil had promised "should be the queen of Hell." Just to show how mean them Yankees were two of her sons, aged 13 and 10, were hung by their heels until they testified against her. Mean, Mean, Mean!]​
     
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    The worst person of the past 238 years has got to be awarded to Keith Olbermann. LOL!
     
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    Then Chris Matthews should be a runner up!:thumbs:
     
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