most Non-denom churches tend to follow baptist theology

ALL non-denom churches around where I live ordain female pastors. Baptist churches don't allow female pastors, I don't think. That's one big difference.

 

Generally, no, Baptists don't ordain female pastors. Technically, however, there's no ban on such in the Baptist Distinctives. A Baptist church could have a female pastor and still be Baptist, since no violations of the distinctives have occurred. However, if a Baptist church is part of a convention or fellowship whose bylaws forbid it, they would be in violation of that convention's plicies, and suffer possible disfellowshipping.

 

Ordaining a woman to pastor a church? No way. Letting a woman preach a sermon.......yes way.

 

It is because most independents are Dispensational as are most Baptists. Dispensationalism was invented by John Nelson Darby in the 1800's and refined by the Plymouth Brethern. Scofield, Dallas Theo, Ryrie . . . aare all PBs or PB trained or PB financed.

 

Last time I checked, the Rapture did not show up in the writings of Justinus Martyr.
As for other aspects of Dispensationalism. Proof please!

 

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[ January 08, 2005, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: dianetavegia ]

 

John3v36
First of all I apologize for missing your post on the 9th of January. I never use the e-mail notification option, so sometimes I loose track of a thread.

It is troubling that all of your sources are in fact polemics against heretics and Jews instead of more general works. Basically they are the sort of theological gymnastic excercises that have to explain why the other guy is wrong instead of why you are right.

I think the following would suit you a little better.
http://www.duluthbible.org/g_f_j/Intro_To_Dispensational_Theology.htm

Ofcourse that site points out that systematic dispensational theology didn't exist prior to the late 17th century.

 

Why would that be troubling? I daddy use to say there is more than one-way to skin a cat. If the truth is present who care what the packing is.

 

>Dispensationalism was NOT invented by John Nelson Darby

Maybe, but there is no record of Darby's theology for the first 1800 or so years of the Christian religion.

 

That's a rather subjective comment, and statistically untrue.

 

That's a rather subjective comment, and statistically untrue. </font>[/QUOTE]how is it untrue?

 

I thought he gave a list of people who from the 1st, 2nd & 3rd cenrty believe Dispensationalism!?!

 

billwald
Here is what John3v36 posted.

If you are looking for the word Dispensation you will not find it but you will find the concept.
the convent view point can not be found till the 3rd century.

A comparison of dispentional system of the Ante-Nicen Age:

Justin Martyr (100 - 165 AD) {Dialogue with Trypho}
Enoch / Noah (Adam to Abraham) Chap 92; cf chap 27
Abraham (Abraham To Moses) Chap 92; cf. chap 19
Moses (Moses to Christ) Chap 92 cf. 43
Christ (Christ to Eternal state?) Chap 23, 43, 45
Millennium (Seventh millenary of years) chap 81; Frag 15

Irenaeus (120-202 AD) {Against Heresies}
(3. 11. 8) Four Covenants (4. 9. 3)
Adam to Noah (3. 11. 8; 4. 16. 2)
Noah to Mose (3. 11. 8; 4. 16. 2)
Moses to Christ (3. 11. 8; 4. 16. 2-3)
Christ to Eternmal State? (3. 11. 8-9; 4. 9. 1-3)
Millennium (Seventh millenary of years) (4. 16. 1; 5. 30. 4; 5. 33.2)

Tertullian (150-225 AD)
An Answer to the Jews
Adam - Chaps 2, 4, 5
Noah - Chap 2, 4
Abraham - Chap 2-6
Moses Chap 2-6
Christ (More faithful worshipers) Apology Chap 21
Millennium Apology Chap 49

Tertullian (150-225 AD)
Against Paxeas
Adam - Chaps 16
Noah - Chap 16
Abraham - Chap 16
Moses Chap 16
Christ (More faithful worshipers) Ag.Marc. 3-4, 20
Millennium- On the Res. 59,61

Not only the above but “Victorinus of Petau” (on the Creation of the world)


But above all Gods Word teaches it


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SixKids
"I thought he gave a list of people who from the 1st, 2nd & 3rd cenrty believe Dispensationalism!?! "
"
He posted some works by early christian authors who believed in different Dispensations (at least they did when they had to explain why the Jews came first*).
Dispensationalism as an integrated theological system competing with Covenant Theology came about something like 15 centuries later.
Saint Augustinus for example believed in different Dispensations, but is basically a Covenant theologian.

*That's why that would be troubling.