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Mother of 9 shot and killed
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canadyjd
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I saw this. Very tragic. It seems very odd to me, though. A random shooting because of the display of a pride flag? In California?
Hope they catch the person soon and we learn more.
peace to you
From ABC news:
The suspected killer, who has not been publicly identified, fled the crime scene on foot, but was found by sheriff's deputies several miles from Carleton's store, where he was fatally shot in a confrontation, authorities said. The sheriff's office said the assailant was armed with a handgun and refused orders to drop the weapon.
The suspected killer, who has not been publicly identified, fled the crime scene on foot, but was found by sheriff's deputies several miles from Carleton's store, where he was fatally shot in a confrontation, authorities said. The sheriff's office said the assailant was armed with a handgun and refused orders to drop the weapon.
canadyjd
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Looks like all we need is motive.
Since the police refused to release the manifesto from the trans person that kill a bunch of kids at a Christian school, I suspect we will never know the motive, unless the perp can be tied to conservatives or (heaven forbid) he’s a DT supporter.
Sorry, I’ve become somewhat cynical of media lately.
peace to you
canadyjd
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There have been several attacks against trans supporters committed by trans persons.
What we are seeing over the last several years is an increasingly violent element in the trans community.
And it makes sense. You begin with people living with mental Illness (gender dysphoria) and you tell them every day they are under attack, being abused etc…. And when they respond with violence you blame conservatives or Christian beliefs.
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Yes, I agree.
Who claims it is random? The guy had posted a number of anti-LGBTQ+ statements on Twitter (aka X) and Gab, including one depicting the burning of a pride flag. It's clear he had contempt for LGBTQ+ persons and the symbol of the pride flag. He didn't just commit this act randomly. His victim may have been a matter of chance, but he had formed his character to act with violence.
Why not California? Don't buy into the fantasy that states a regions are homogeneously "red" or "blue," pro-LGBTQ+ or anti-LGBTQ+. Persons of vastly different beliefs and morals live next to each other all over the United States.
Persons know if they are under attack or not. Trans persons have been under attack from right-wing politicians and right-wing media for several years now.
canadyjd
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You are more informed than I. The last I saw, police hadn’t released his name.
I am somewhat confused as your statement seems to be contradictory. I said “random violence”, you corrected me and then called it “chance”.
Peace to you
canadyjd
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No sir, trans are not under attack.
They have been confronted over the last several years when the radical left began a full frontal assault on our children: grooming them for sexual exploitation in our schools by pushing trans ideology on kindergarteners.
The radical left trans movement has become emboldened and parents are pushing back. It isn’t right wing media, politicians… it is the parents that are standing up and shouting “YOU CAN’T DO THAT TO MY KIDS!!!”
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I was not clear. The violence was not "random," but his particular victim may simply have been a victim of opportunity/chance.
Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my meaning.
I know a trans person quite well. He (transitioning to "she") gets attacked regularly by both family and complete strangers. I know of other trans people who face the same sort of attacks.
Yes, this is exactly the message that the right-wing politicians and media are promoting. Sounds like you accept the narrative completely and without reservation.
canadyjd
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Just to be clear, your friend isn’t “transitioning to she”. Your friend is mentally ill and needs professional counseling to help him mentally and emotionally accept the truth of his biological reality.
Pretending he is something he is not does not help, and in fact hinders people like your friend from getting the professional help they need to accept the reality of their gender. It leads to higher rates of suicide among these people and that falls directly at the feet of those using them for political purposes instead of actually caring about their mental well being.
Speaking of reality, it is documented reality of the aggressive push of radical trans ideology in our schools. It is pure evil. And it is the parents that are fighting back. Some media are accurately reporting on these parents efforts, some media, which you are parroting, claim these patents are attacking trans kids.
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KenH
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Attacked in what way? The reason I ask is that while I am pretty much a live and let live person, I am not going to accept LGBTQIA2S+ (or whatever the latest designation is for such folks) as being equally okay compared to heterosexuality, and male and female, and the historical use of pronouns.
I have found that lots of folks in the LGBTQIA2S+ group and their supporters are not content with folks like me leaving them alone, but they insist that folks like me have to also accept them as being okay as they are and just as "normal" as heterosexuals and normal males and females.
For example, having total strangers approach him tell his he is "disgusting." Persons loudly and aggressively telling him he is "mentally ill," with no interest on compassion or his welfare, just venting their beliefs. Persons accusing him of being a "groomer" trying to molest children. I could go on.
canadyjd
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Evil is never satisfied with “live and let live”. This whole trans ideology is about forcing compliance on all who dare to disagree.
They will attempt to force you to agree. If you don’t agree, they will attempt to shame you into silence by claiming you are causing these folks to commit suicide. If they cannot shame you into silence, If they cannot shame you into silence, they will attempt to bankrupt you by threatening your lively hood with lawsuits and false accusations… targeting your employer. Finally, they will criminalize your beliefs, calling it “hate speech” and “inciting violence” if you dare to protect your children from this purely evil, sexual grooming.
This evil cannot be placated. It must be revealed boldly in the arena of ideas and defeated.
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canadyjd
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Your friend is mentally ill. I don’t say it loudly or aggressively, but I do state it plainly as truth. Pretending he is a woman’s is unhealthy for him. He needs professional counseling to help him accept the reality of his biological gender.
If your friend participates in drag shows where children are present, he is grooming them for sexual exploitation and he is disgusting. That, I will say loudly and aggressively with my full concern being for the well being of those children that are being exposed to this satanic evil ideology.
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You will be relieved to know that he has been in therapy for years regarding a number of different matters, including trauma from the violent suicide of his brother directly in front of him to sexual abuse as a child from a man. There is also a biological element that is involved in the equation, which is true of a number of people who experience gender dysphoria.
You are aware that this is a fallen world and persons are not always born with the normal configuration of sexual organs, genetics, and hormones, right? Don't be too quick to judge a person's situation.
You are so sure of yourself yet you don't know the difference between a trans persons and drag queen. They are different things.
He's not, so he's not disgusting. He is a person created in the image of God who has been through more trauma than most.
canadyjd
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Not sure why you believe I would be “relieved” to know of this man’s tragedies. I am glad he is in therapy. I do hope his therapist is attempting to help him accept the reality of his gender.
I am sure of this… exposing children to trans ideology/ drag queens is grooming them for sexual exploitation.. it is pure evil.
And we are not talking about rare genetic disorders (another deflection from the trans crowd to gain sympathy), we are talking about the mental illness that is gender dysphoria and the radical trans ideology being taught in our schools.
I cede to your knowledge of trans and drag. I suppose ignorance is a blessing at times.
peace to you
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