Mueller out of control: FBI raids office of Trump lawyer

[Wingman68]

If the American people allow this coup to happen, then it is the will of the people.

True it is the vote of silence and indifference - nevertheless, it is indeed the will of the people.

Personally, I will reluctantly accept it.

Then it will be my turn to legally resist in every way possible (which I am currently doing) until I do not have that right.

Like Paul I can say :

NKJV Philippians 4:11 Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content:

Except maybe California.

Sad to hear you accept this. Makes me glad I’m old & got to live my time on this earth when our rights, & our pride in who we were, was the norm. It’s been downhill since Nam, where the left was allowed to shame our soldiers, & our soldiers were not sent, or allowed, to win. Bad policy all around. We have allowed too many things that usurp our ideals, like the slow & deadly takeover of our education system, the acceptance of political correctness, & on & on. Except for Trump we would be on the fast path to one world order, as in the acceptance of such policies by most European nations today. If people go along to get along, we’ll be there soon enough.

 

[HankD]

Sad to hear you accept this. Makes me glad I’m old & got to live my time on this earth when our rights, & our pride in who we were, was the norm. It’s been downhill since Nam, where the left was allowed to shame our soldiers, & our soldiers were not sent, or allowed, to win. Bad policy all around. We have allowed too many things that usurp our ideals, like the slow & deadly takeover of our education system, the acceptance of political correctness, & on & on. Except for Trump we would be on the fast path to one world order, as in the acceptance of such policies by most European nations today. If people go along to get along, we’ll be there soon enough.

I am sad you are sad.

Like one of the progressives here reminded me - this place is not my home.
Like I said I will legally resist whenever and wherever I can.
The enemy has found many ways around our checks and balances, rule of law is destroyed.

Above all no one can stop me from a prayer life.

Isaiah 59:19 ... When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

 

[Wingman68]

I am sad you are sad.

Like one of the progressives here reminded me - this place is not my home.
Like I said I will legally resist whenever and wherever I can.
The enemy has found many ways around our checks and balances, rule of law is destroyed.

Above all no one can stop me from a prayer life.

Isaiah 59:19 ... When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

Thank you.

 

[kyredneck]

The raid on Trump’s lawyer: Why? And why now?

"...President Trump was negotiating conditions for his interview with the special counsel that were restrictive as to what could be asked. Perhaps Mueller determined that it was unlikely to be productive. This raid now virtually precludes such an interview being agreed to. This will enable Mueller to seek a grand jury subpoena, which would lead to free questioning of the president with no counsel present. Trump can be expected to decline to honor such a subpoena, which would set off a constitutional crisis and help along the impeachment movement.

Now the FBI that is embarrassed and potentially criminally liable for its behavior in the FISA warrant application has free rein to examine the private and legally protected communications between Trump and his lawyer and to fish for further lines of inquiry, even if legally constrained from using evidence that is legally protected. The president and the public are supposed to trust that a separate group of FBI agents specially trained in examining protected attorney-client communications will fully safeguard the interests of the president and his counsel...."

"....There is an election in four-plus months, in which control of the House of Representatives and the Senate is at stake. Even if the evidence developed out of the raid is thrown out of court in any resulting prosecution, that is irrelevant. What is important is the ammunition to be developed and leaked to pet media outlets that can be used to sway voters to elect an impeachment Congress.

My strong suspicion is that, having failed to find anything related to his mandate, Robert Mueller is baiting the president to fire him. By stepping over the line and fishing for evidence in confidential and privileged attorney-client relations, he is misbehaving, but doing so through a cut-out, the U.S. attorney in New York. He wants the firestorm that would result to push control of Congress into Democrat hands."


It blows my mind at how blatant and flagrant and 'in your face' this is, and for all to see. They're actually out to destroy him and undo his election by the people.

But how many Americans recognize it, or even care?

 

[HankD]

The raid on Trump’s lawyer: Why? And why now?



It blows my mind at how blatant and flagrant and 'in your face' this is, and for all to see. They're actually out to destroy him and undo his election by the people.

But how many Americans recognize it, or even care?

Yes! its a bonafide bloodless coup!

We need a 60 million man march to DC to tar and feather Mueller and Sessions.

 

[carpro]

https://nypost.com/2018/01/30/stormy-daniels-now-denies-ever-having-an-affair-with-trump/


An adult film star who previously alleged an extramarital affair with Donald Trump now says in a statement the affair never happened.

 

[Baptist Believer]

An adult film star who previously alleged an extramarital affair with Donald Trump now says in a statement the affair never happened.

Check the date on that story... late January. She was still trying to fulfill the terms of the NDA that she signed that the President did not.

 

[carpro]

Check the date on that story... late January. She was still trying to fulfill the terms of the NDA that she signed that the President did not.

You're right. Missed the date.

That was before the $ signs got bigger in her eyes. She now figures the $130,000 was peanuts. Easier than having sex for money.

 

[church mouse guy]

Mueller is fixated on Daniels.

 

[carpro]

Mueller is fixated on Daniels.

But why? What crime could possibly have been committed?

Her silence was paid for. So what? that's not illegal. Happens all the time.

Is Mueller just interested in it as a way to set a perjury trap for Trump, or is it just the salacious nature of the affair that interests him? An opportunity to smear Trump personally.

Or is he just looking for a crime, any crime, no matter how minor, to charge the attorney with and force Trump to get another?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

As I understand the situation, the raid occurred because the US Attorney for Manhattan thinks the lawyer lied to his bank to raise the funds to make the payment. The narrative is the lawyer borrowed funds he told the bank he was going to use for home renovation. But, instead, he paid Daniels with the money. Giving grounds for possible bank fraud.

 

[church mouse guy]

Well, that's what Mueller planted in the Washington Post about his reason. It's a fishing expedition to get their dirty hands on a lawyer's files. Clearly, this has nothing to do with Russia. I think Daniels is ugly but Trump and Mueller seem to like her.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No I can’t... stuck with Captain Chaos who obviously doesn’t have the guts to do his job and fire Mueller. Lots of bluster but no balls.

 

[HankD]

No I can’t... stuck with Captain Chaos who obviously doesn’t have the guts to do his job and fire Mueller.

Easy for you to say... Have another cup of coffee

 

[Baptist Believer]

"Trump could end up doing anything, because he’s spiraling out of control."

It's fairly clear that's what is happening.

Trump Tweet @ 3:57 a.m., April 11, 2018:

Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!​

(1) Candidate Trump accused Obama and Clinton of telegraphing our intentions to enemies of the U.S., and he had a point. He is now doing the same thing, only worse. He's giving short term intentions, not just long-term timetables. What an idiotic hypocrite!

(2) Should he really be using Twitter to announce something like this? Has he talked with the military about a plan? I'm quite sure they would not want him announcing the plan.

(3) If we don't launch missiles (or the Russians manage to shoot down a few of them since the President has put them on alert), he has diminished our ability to influence and project force without firing a shot.

 

[HankD]

It's fairly clear that's what is happening.

Trump Tweet @ 3:57 a.m., April 11, 2018:

Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!​

(1) Candidate Trump accused Obama and Clinton of telegraphing our intentions to enemies of the U.S., and he had a point. He is now doing the same thing, only worse. He's giving short term intentions, not just long-term timetables. What an idiotic hypocrite!

Here is a possible solution:
1 Timothy 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

Pray BB - we are on the verge of WWIII - it is inevitable unless God intervenes.

With Trump as the Commander-in-Chief at least we have the possibility of wining.

You don't know why he is signaling his actions, it may be wisdom or stupidity, you don't know.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Pray BB - we are on the verge of WWIII - it is inevitable unless God intervenes.

I have been praying for this man since he announced his candidacy.

With Trump as the Commander-in-Chief at least we have the possibility of wining.

Trump is our greatest liability. He doesn't know what he is doing and he acts out of impulse, not reason.

You don't know why he is signaling his actions, it may be wisdom or stupidity, you don't know.

Based on his track record, it is stupidity. I'll be happy to eat my words if demonstrated to be wrong.

But he is hemmed in on all sides by his past actions that are coming back to haunt him. He has little to lose if he commits our nation to warfare. He may believe that it will rally public support to his side.

Open warfare may be necessary in this situation, but I don't want him putting our nation's best and brightest in harm's way to protect his ego or distract from his legal troubles.

 

[HankD]

I have been praying for this man since he announced his candidacy.


Trump is our greatest liability. He doesn't know what he is doing and he acts out of impulse, not reason.


Based on his track record, it is stupidity. I'll be happy to eat my words if demonstrated to be wrong.

But he is hemmed in on all sides by his past actions that are coming back to haunt him. He has little to lose if he commits our nation to warfare. He may believe that it will rally public support to his side.

Open warfare may be necessary in this situation, but I don't want him putting our nation's best and brightest in harm's way to protect his ego or distract from his legal troubles.

All those things may be true (I don't think they are all true).

But he is a hawk, he has surrounded himself with hawks.

Putin knows this and IMO he is terrified to take us on especially with so many nations in alliance with us.
But he will because for him it is mother Russia no matter the price.

Putin does have China in alliance (communist) with a standing army of about 2 million (PLA), although army size doesn't mean all that much anymore.

Both Russia and America have the tools - megaton thermonuclear devices.

A 60 megaton bomb would create a ground zero hole about 30 miles in diameter.
Where I live here close to Seattle - if dropped over Seattle would wipe the city out and bring death and destruction all the way down to the Capital of Olympia 60 miles to the south.

Now is the time for prayer and fasting.
You will see the Democrats begin to support President Trump as WWIII gets closer. IMO world war is inevitable.

 

[Rippon]

Trump is our greatest liability. He doesn't know what he is doing and he acts out of impulse, not reason.

You are dead wrong.

I'll be happy to eat my words if demonstrated to be wrong.

What condiment would you like on your hat?

his legal troubles.

He has no legal troubles.

 

[HankD]

Judging by the current TV blurbs this is a showcase deal with America sending smart missiles to Syrian air force facilities and Russia attempting to shoot them down.

This is good Hopefully it won't escalate beyond that.

If Russia only responds defensively that means they are backing down.
There will be global rejoicing, North Korea will submit to denuking, etc, etc.

I dont even want to think about escalation, but...

oops this is off subject, sorry.