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Muslim Cleric calls women 'meat'

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by El_Guero, Oct 26, 2006.

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  1. El_Guero

    El_Guero New Member

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    Daisy,

    Your acting like the islamic gang rape system was no big deal led me out to the internet.

    They acutally subjugate their own women as well by fear of being gang raped . . .

    Pig, dog, snake, or whatever other description you want of the creeps - they are sick.

    The hate crimes against Americans of African decent were maybe one percent this level - and as Anglo-Americans, most of us were morally offended enough to assist (some sacrificed their lives) in ending that evil era.

    But, what this religion is doing is on a MUCH LARGER SCALE. WHERE ARE THE HUNDRDS OF THOUSANDS OF THEIR PEOPLE RISKING THEIR LIVES? WHY AREN'T THEY OUTRAGED?

    ALL MUSLIMS SHOULD BE MARCHING IN THE STREETS TO END THEIR 1600 YEARS OF RULE BY TERROR.
     
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    I make no such mistake. My point is that displaying onself as there to be raped is comparable to displaying one's house as being vacant or displaying expensive wheelcovers there to be stolen. I think this point is statistically validated... According to the National Sexual Abuse Hotline, 44% of rape victims are under age 18, and 80% are under 30. This doesn't mean younger women are raped more often because they are more attractive, but that younger women are more likely to be in crowds, go to parties, et al, and are more likely to be seen by sexual predators. I have no data to confirm this, but I think it's reasonable to assume there are more sexual predators in a commune or crack house than in a retirement home.

    If I were an evolutionist I would believe that humans are inescapably subjected to a linking of physical violence, territoriality, and sexual predation, as that is the common pattern of mammals. Indeed, there are many organizations [possibly including the one I cited above] which make this claim, that all men are rapists [I have seen such literature]. Is there some truth to that? In my observation, there is. Regardless of where it comes from, the human mind, matter, and motivation get 'crossed up' in many cases with many individuals, and it manifests in criminal activity; similar, perhaps too much so, to the unexplainable observation that one dog in a litter, all raised in the same way, will be much more violent than the others.
     
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    The cleric in question did NOT call for Moslem men to rape. The gang in question decided to do so on their own.

    Apparently, anything insufficiently condemnatory sounds like a defense to you.

    No, I think that is too good for them, too easy.
     
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    Daisy

    You need to desperately read some of the literature available . . . the description of muslims in this world does not even come close to the one that you continue to hold up.

    I have had a muslim roommate . . . he always 'acted' very good. I do not judge what he would do or not do. But, many of his friends had one concept - American woman were only for sex. No matter what the method, they were to be used. I remember being shocked about their dismissal of the women as women, and their constant discussion of the women as 'whores'.

    This was over 20 years ago.

    Their attitude was that since 'all' American women give their sex away, they should get some while they are here. I have since known a couple of American women that did marry muslim men. The women were constantly 'proving' their fidelity . . . These married women must constantly prove their fidelity because all American (Christian) women are ____ .

    If I did not constantly read about how bad these young muslim men still are, I might agree with you. But, I see no evidence to the contrary. There seems to be a widespread view among muslim men that Christian women are only good for one thing. I, personally, have heard this from muslim men from around the world. I have read this in papers from around the world.

    :BangHead:

    They are not the entire population - but, having been in groups of them, I would have to estimate the number that vocalize their approval of using American women at over 30% . . . how many of the remainder feel that way but are afraid of admitting what they feel - I do not know.

    Someone needs to stop them with whatever it takes.
     
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    And NO - YOU ARE WRONG.

    The cleric clearly taught that in his religious view muslim men should treat women without a veil like a cat would treat meat. In my observation, he desired to incite further violence.

    Even though he would know that he is being watched and his sermons analyzed for violent content, he felt safe enough to call for muslim men to attack Christian women . . .

    Someone needs to remove his safety net, and bury him with pigs to ensure his eternal fear according to his theology. I feel sorry for the pigs. We should humanely end their lives first.

    When cowards attack women and children for fun & fear tactics, real men need to stand up and be counted - IMHO.
     
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    Alcott

    Focus! Get on task!

    These women DID NOT DISPLAY THEMSELVES. Why do you choose to use such a disgusting analogy?

    These women were dressed. Some were CHILDREN (14 years old).

    The perpetrators emailed each other, text messaged each other, and called each other so that they could greatly increase the number of attackers.

    I do not know why you do not feel a sense of outrage, but these actions were morally evil.

    Ironically, in some parts of the world, the muslim men gang rape their own women . . . where is the sense of outrage? I remember in college that women were talking about suing men if they had a drink before sex for 'date rape' - I am not diminishing the problem of 'date rape. If there can (& should) be outrage about what many would call 'seduction', where then is the outrage for actual rape.

    I say execute them and bury their bodies with pig parts . . . desecrate them in their deaths as they have desecrated the living.


     
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    Your hate-literature denies their humanity? No, I don't need to read that, um, <edited - LE>.

    Would it surprise you to learn that American women have this reputation among foreign nations across religious lines?

    I have found a similar attitude common in men, American men, even Christian men, frat boys, etc. It's deplorable but hardly unique.

    Islam preaches chasity for men, too. Whether they choose to follow that or not is partly personal and partly cultural.

    I married my husband 20 years ago. He grew up a nominal Moslem and he is still the best man I know. He does not despise women, unlike many American, Christian men I have met.

    That has not been my experience or the experience of anyone I know.

    I think you seek these stories out and ignore all that contradicts them.

    And what percentage of American men also approve of using available American women for easy sex?

    This is all too reminiscent of the exaggerated white fears of black men not so long ago. Very KKKesque.
     
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    Just kill them as a matter of law, and let God deal with them in all justice.
     
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    She's just being Daisy.
     
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    They simply will not do that. They have choosen this religion, for whatever reason, and are forbiden to leave it. The consequences are rather obvious. Even as we liberate them by the millions, few change religions.
     
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    That judgment will be as or more horrific than their crimes.
     
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    Choosing to bow down to satan' church and his prophet is such a sad way to live and end one's days.

    Oh, that they would choose to repent.

    Oh, that they would turn to Jesus and accept His sacrifice for their sin.

    It is better to be a cowardly martyr against their hatred than to let them die for eternity.

    :jesus:
     
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    Yeah, clear-eyed and sensible.
     
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    Now that is a first!

    Daisy has come out "clear-eyed and sensible" against the evil of islam!

    I knew we could get consensus: :1_grouphug:


     
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    No, against the evil of hate-mongering and bigotry.

    Are you against zenophobic hate and bigotry?
     
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    Since this thread is already on page 4, it will be closed no sooner than 1:00 a.m. ET by one of the moderators.

    Lady Eagle,
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    It will be exactly just...no more no less
     
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    I share your emotional angst over this issue, but each is given a choice until the day they die.
     
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    That is so true.
     
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    If what you are implying is true then we are in agreement.

    Islam is a religion of zenophobic hatred, bigotry, intimidation, and violence.

    Are there exceptions? Definitely. Just not many. And it is a shame that the few 'good' ones will spend eternity in hell with the hate mongering ones.
     
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