Must A Calvinist "Hold to" regeneration before faith, or Not?

[JesusFan]

In order to be considered part of the Cal version of salavation model. MUST one hold to regeneration preceeding faith than?

Who would hold to faith/regeneration same event/time
faith preceeding regeneration

Are all 3 views considered to be "calvinists?"

 

[Greektim]

In order to be considered part of the Cal version of salavation model. MUST one hold to regeneration preceeding faith than?

Who would hold to faith/regeneration same event/time
faith preceeding regeneration

Are all 3 views considered to be "calvinists?"

Putting markers of chronology is not necessary. What most Calvinists do when they speak of one preceding the other is a logical sequence. In other words, which causes what? Or to put it to the two words: Does faith cause regeneration or regeneration cause faith? As a Calvinist, I believe that regeneration causes faith. Chronologically, they happen at the same time (although I'm not sure you can prove much from Scripture as to the timing). Logically, one precedes to the other. Causality my friend.

 

[JesusFan]

Putting markers of chronology is not necessary. What most Calvinists do when they speak of one preceding the other is a logical sequence. In other words, which causes what? Or to put it to the two words: Does faith cause regeneration or regeneration cause faith? As a Calvinist, I believe that regeneration causes faith. Chronologically, they happen at the same time (although I'm not sure you can prove much from Scripture as to the timing). Logically, one precedes to the other. Causality my friend.

Would that be like saying God quickings the heart/mind of His elect in order/so that they can actually hear and believe in Jesus as Saviour? That while I hearing the Gospel, He will be doing internal work while external message happening at same time, so from our viewpoint salvation happens by God regenerating us and than we place our faith in Christ at same time?

 

[Tom Butler]

Putting markers of chronology is not necessary. What most Calvinists do when they speak of one preceding the other is a logical sequence. In other words, which causes what? Or to put it to the two words: Does faith cause regeneration or regeneration cause faith? As a Calvinist, I believe that regeneration causes faith. Chronologically, they happen at the same time (although I'm not sure you can prove much from Scripture as to the timing). Logically, one precedes to the other. Causality my friend.

This is my view, as well.

Would that be like saying God quickings the heart/mind of His elect in order/so that they can actually hear and believe in Jesus as Saviour? That while I hearing the Gospel, He will be doing internal work while external message happening at same time, so from our viewpoint salvation happens by God regenerating us and than we place our faith in Christ at same time?

I don't know that I can state categorically that faith immediately follows regeneration in every case, but that describes my conversion experience.

 

[dwmoeller1]

Putting markers of chronology is not necessary. What most Calvinists do when they speak of one preceding the other is a logical sequence. In other words, which causes what? Or to put it to the two words: Does faith cause regeneration or regeneration cause faith? As a Calvinist, I believe that regeneration causes faith. Chronologically, they happen at the same time (although I'm not sure you can prove much from Scripture as to the timing). Logically, one precedes to the other. Causality my friend.

What he said.

 

[JesusFan]

This is my view, as well.



I don't know that I can state categorically that faith immediately follows regeneration in every case, but that describes my conversion experience.

So you would see it as being essentially same time in life of a Christian...
God does His inner work to quicken, and the changed person than places his faith in jesus?

Do you hold that htere can be a long period of time in between, as some hold here on BB?