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Must One Hold To A-Mil To Evedn be a Real Christian then?

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Yeshua1

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Why in the world do you keep posting straw men and wild geese? Who says only Amill will be saved? Who believes that? Who believes only premillenial dispensationalists will be saved?
The one who Posted #4 seemed to be implying that on another thread!
 

Alan Gross

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I moved from pre trib rapture to historical premil, what caused you to go to A Mil then, was it seeing the Messianic Age fully in a spiritual sense?

Reading and Interpreting the Literature of God's Word, under the Power of The Holy Spirit, allowing God to Use what figures of speech, in language, He Chooses.

In The Book of Revelation, God Chose to 'signify'.
 

Alan Gross

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The one who Posted #4 seemed to be implying that on another thread!

And, since that is this thread supposed topic, what did someone think was said that implied our subject matter, which has not been articulated, here?

What is the substance of the accusation?
 

Yeshua1

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And, since that is this thread supposed topic, what did someone think was said that implied our subject matter, which has not been articulated, here?

What is the substance of the accusation?
Not accusing. more like requesting a clarification!
 

1689Dave

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Scripture is clear on this one.

"Repent, believe, and accept an Amil position and you will be saved", "one must be born again and accept an Amil view", " I, along with the Amil position, am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me, and of course the Amil position".
How about "the truth sets you free"? And what Jesus suffered to produce it? How about trying to find one passage in the gospels or epistles that teach any type of millennium. It was after all a pharisee doctrine.
 

Yeshua1

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How about "the truth sets you free"? And what Jesus suffered to produce it? How about trying to find one passage in the gospels or epistles that teach any type of millennium. It was after all a pharisee doctrine.
held by both OT Prophets and many ECF!
If one holds to premil/postMil, are they even saved?
 

Alcott

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There is not much to be derived from this thread other than to take the Bible with a grain of salt.
 

timtofly

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How about "the truth sets you free"? And what Jesus suffered to produce it? How about trying to find one passage in the gospels or epistles that teach any type of millennium. It was after all a pharisee doctrine.
Do you have a version of the Bible dedicated to the teachings of the Pharisees?
 

tyndale1946

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One must be a Calvinist to be saved

Come on Mitchell!... Being a Calvinist doesn't save you and being an Arminian doesn't save you either!... Brother Glen:)


Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
 

1689Dave

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Do you have a version of the Bible dedicated to the teachings of the Pharisees?
It's the Pharisees' interpretation of a millennium instead of Christ's teaching on the kingdom that's the problem. Many today reject Christ's gospel of the kingdom, as preached by Peter at Pentecost. Avoid preaching it, preferring the Pharisees physical kingdom version instead. They created Millenarianism.
 

1689Dave

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held by both OT Prophets and many ECF!
If one holds to premil/postMil, are they even saved?
I think they are bound by false teaching. But I won't attend their churches. Some of my favorite Theologians were Postmillennial, but it has slid into Dominion Theology today and now have innocent blood on their hands even by thinking as they do. Same with Pro Israel Millennialists simply by thinking as they do. https://www.globalresearch.ca/milli...d-war-iii-to-speed-up-the-second-coming/29362
 

Yeshua1

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It's the Pharisees' interpretation of a millennium instead of Christ's teaching on the kingdom that's the problem. Many today reject Christ's gospel of the kingdom, as preached by Peter at Pentecost. Avoid preaching it, preferring the Pharisees physical kingdom version instead. They created Millenarianism.
Actually, the OT Prophets foretold of it. and many of the ECF saw it way before darby!
 

tyndale1946

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Actually, the OT Prophets foretold of it. and many of the ECF saw it way before darby!

He set his feet on earth the first time and there is no scripture saying he will set his feet on earth the second time... Brother Glen:)

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

If you can find a millennial reign in there your welcome to it!
 

Yeshua1

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He set his feet on earth the first time and there is no scripture saying he will set his feet on earth the second time... Brother Glen:)

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

If you can find a millennial reign in there your welcome to it!
Zechariah 14:4
 

tyndale1946

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It's an OT Prophecy filled in the New... Brother Glen:)

Luke 22:39 And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his disciples also followed him.

Btw... Don't try to use the Lord will suddenly come to his temple either... OT filled in the New!
 
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