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My feelings of failure and not being good enough....

saturneptune

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Two weeks into my new job and I have been told by the manager and her manager that I am doing a great job! I do not complain, am a team player and just work. I have only taken 1 break in two weeks and work 9-10 hours or more a day. I am still learning and make mistakes here and there. Perhaps I feel that I am not good enough because I expect perfection and may be a perfectionist, to some degree. I try and work like I am a SLAVE OF GOD and I work for the master as a slave. If the master decides its time for me to go, then I will not complain and I will go, as a slave has no rights. This has been my mindset of late as Mac has greatly encouraged me in his teachings on the topic. Work like I am a slave of God, and God is my master. If I make a mistake then I will humbly admit it, and do my best to perfect myself to the best of my ability. However I will never be perfect because only God is perfect. My mission is to witness through my work ethics as a slave of God.

So how do I feel with the feelings that I am not doing great?
Here is some good advice for a change. Know that this is where God has put you, and go on the exact course with the exact habits you have been. From your posts, I know you have faith in the Lord. If I had one correction to make in what you are doing, that would be to have more faith and confidence in yourself and your abilities. Anyone who witnesses on the street is the top of the line to me.
 

quantumfaith

Active Member
Part of the problem is giving too much weight to MacArthur's words. You are taking the slave mentality to an unhealthy place, when the Bible means servant. We are called sons and a friend of God. We give ourselves to him out of love, not because Hes to be viewed as a slave master.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

quantumfaith

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Some find it too far below them to think of themselves as a slave of Christ. This attitude typically stems from a theology that holds a high view of man and diminishes truth in Rom. 3 and other Scriptures. I am very leary of any person who paints themselves (pre-conversion) as a good person, seeker of God, always loved God &c.

Then there is the feeble attempt to say slave means servant and diminish its meaning. That in itself is altogether a weak argument and shows rejection of the truth. English translation ('slave' to 'servant') does not override the original meaning and intent here. The term is doulos, and means slave. It is in a figurative sense and one is to consider himself or herself as such, as Christ is the perfect model of this; Php. 2:7, and Timothy was to consider himself in the same manner; 2 Tim. 2:24 as Paul himself did as well.

As to the OP just remain patient John. Rome wasn't built in a day. Walk wisely before others and remember Jesus was a friend of sinners, be one yourself, show the same grace to them that Christ showed to you.

BTW you walk by faith and by SIGHT. If you claim otherwise, you are being dishonest. Why don't you stop trying to score drive by points.
 

preacher4truth

Active Member
I did not claim it to be figurative. We are to literally and willingly give ourselves over completely to Christ as His servant, to further His kingdom.

I did not say cultural connotations are the reason the use of the word doulos for "slave" should be abandoned. It does not mean "slave." No slave is willing.

You misunderstood my post.

You're tripping. :thumbsup:

The word is and can be used in both a literal and a figurative sense.

There are and were willing slaves in OT times.

The term slave is not limited to your negative connotations nor to your politically correct angle, and no matter if it is termed servant or slave they are both nonetheless slaves. You're attempting to make my meaning, the literal Biblical meaning by the way, fit the scenario of slave ships that had gone to Africa and forced people into ships to bring here into forced slavery.

Lose the word forced and the assumption that I've used it.

No matter how bad you want to force that into what I am saying it's not true and doesn't reflect what I am saying, and this is exactly the sense you are forcing upon the term.
 

quantumfaith

Active Member
Obviously you've missed all that I said in your long post. I claimed it as you did, in a figurative sense. You brought in all the negative connotations brought on by culture, and none of it does away with the true biblical concept. That is the view that isn't biblical. Cultural sensitivities don't rewrite or override truth. Again, English translations do not take away the words true meaning. That is a weak and faulty hermeneutic you've employed.

NO, you were doing your best to score drive by points against WD. That is patently obvious.
 

Squidward

Member
Two weeks into my new job and I have been told by the manager and her manager that I am doing a great job! I do not complain, am a team player and just work. I have only taken 1 break in two weeks and work 9-10 hours or more a day. I am still learning and make mistakes here and there. Perhaps I feel that I am not good enough because I expect perfection and may be a perfectionist, to some degree. I try and work like I am a SLAVE OF GOD and I work for the master as a slave. If the master decides its time for me to go, then I will not complain and I will go, as a slave has no rights. This has been my mindset of late as Mac has greatly encouraged me in his teachings on the topic. Work like I am a slave of God, and God is my master. If I make a mistake then I will humbly admit it, and do my best to perfect myself to the best of my ability. However I will never be perfect because only God is perfect. My mission is to witness through my work ethics as a slave of God.

So how do I feel with the feelings that I am not doing great?

We are our own worst enemy. Don't push yourself too hard. Just be effective, but do take breaks to eat and also decompress when you can. I'm afraid the breakneck pace at which you are going could burn you out quickly and you could become cynical towards the job which will in fact affect your effectiveness.

Work hard, do a great job, but do take time to think of you my man.
 
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preacher4truth

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We are our own worst enemy. Don't push yourself too hard. Just be effective, but do take breaks to eat and also decompress when you can. I'm afraid the breakneck pace at which you are going could burn you out quickly and you could become cynical towards the job which will in fact affect your effectiveness.

Work hard, do a great job, but do take time to think of you my man.

Good job sir!
 

saturneptune

New Member
You're tripping. :thumbsup:

The word is and can be used in both a literal and a figurative sense.

There are and were willing slaves in OT times.

The term slave is not limited to your negative connotations nor to your politically correct angle, and no matter if it is termed servant or slave they are both nonetheless slaves. You're attempting to make my meaning, the literal Biblical meaning by the way, fit the scenario of slave ships that had gone to Africa and forced people into ships to bring here into forced slavery.

Lose the word forced and the assumption that I've used it.

No matter how bad you want to force that into what I am saying it's not true and doesn't reflect what I am saying, and this is exactly the sense you are forcing upon the term.

If in fact you are a pastor, you would last about one week if any local church in this area was stupid enough to call you.
 

quantumfaith

Active Member
Evangelist

From my very simplistic observations of your contributions, you set your personal expectations bar at times too for yourself to reach. You should simply recognize that a Job or career is simply a means to provide sustenance for ourselves and families. You should be patient, making yourself available, and "observe" for opportunities to share and inject your faith into a conversation, rather than trying to make those opportunities happen. When people know and respect you, and that can take time, they will often unknowingly grant you those opportunities to share the joy in your heart. Sharing your faith, in the context of working relationships is considerably different than any kind of "preaching", street preaching or otherwise. Concentrate on preparing and making YOUR heart available, God will grow you and grant you opportunities to share HIS message and love with others. Be patient.
 

Amy.G

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No slave is willing.

Not true. A bond slave has willingly given himself as a slave forever.

Exodus 21:5-6 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
 

Iconoclast

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Not true. A bond slave has willingly given himself as a slave forever.

Exodus 21:5-6 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

Thanks AMYG you saved me from looking that one up.....it is a great picture of how once willing slaves to sin...when set free by Jesus jn 8...willingly put themselves under His lordship and kingdom purposes;

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
 

Rippon

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If in fact you are a pastor, you would last about one week if any local church in this area was stupid enough to call you.

Son,you have to stop your infantile tirades.

You loudly,and repeatedly said you had put him on ignore and yet you obviously did no such thing. That's called what?

Do what you said you were going to do:

S/N :"And civil I will stay. You will never catch me off guard like that again." 5/18/13
 
Not true. A bond slave has willingly given himself as a slave forever.[
Which is the reason he is not a "slave" to the extent most people understand the term, which is exactly what I explained in my last two posts, something you would have absorbed had you read carefully those two posts.
 

Gina B

Active Member
Okay, I'm saying all this because you sound like someone I know and care about and this is exactly what I would tell him. So it might sound a little odd in the wording because it's not just generic, but what I'd say to him face to face if he just said to me what you just typed. And if it doesn't pertain to you then fine, but your personality sounds so very similar that I'm going at it the same. :)

Setting reasonable goals and making allowances if something temporarily changes your course.

That's always different for each person and each goal, whether it's a long or short term goal, even a daily goal. Sometimes life just happens. People get colds, or traffic is bad, or your body made you take five breaks from work in one day when that wasn't part of the plan or someone at home was sick and your boss gets disappointed that you called in, but you have to take care of your family too and yourself if you're too sick to go and be safe while there. You need goals, but just as much, you need to learn that you're not a bad person when life happens. It's part of what makes it all interesting and what it is. Yeah, some people hate that, but let's not get all "Brave New World" here. It wouldn't end well for the ones that don't like anything to ever get messy.

Not allowing others to define how you feel beyond a reasonable point. For example, if you didn't do a decent job, there's not much point in not taking the consequences. However, if you did decent and you know it and your boss or the person next to you is having a bad day, you still might go ahead and (unfairly) accept their criticism if it's not abusive, because that's probably just how you are and it's not my intent or right to say you shouldn't do that, but in your heart, you should not be thinking to yourself that it's your fault. You should be thinking "what is going on in this person's life that they are lashing out at me when I did nothing wrong?" Instead of bringing up feelings that you're not good enough or that somehow it is your fault, try to find compassion for them and realize that it is their problem, not yours. Pray for them. Realize they need it. And pray for yourself. You need it to when you're treated wrong. You're not a sissy to need comfort from the Holy Spirit.

Sometimes, people are their own worst critics, and also very sensitive to perceived criticism. People like that tend to get taken advantage of, then they feel even worse because they feel dumb after, but then tend to feel better about it by telling themselves "I'll act Christian about it and take it as a suffering for Christ." You're allowed to be angry...and sin not. You're allowed to be more cautious and you're allowed to be careful.
With this personality, it's also a good idea to think for a little while before automatically feeling bad over something someone said. Ask yourself a few times if there's another way it could be interpreted. Try to train your brain to always think of the positive interpretation first. (of course sometimes it's just really obvious that it wasn't!)
 

quantumfaith

Active Member
Son,you have to stop your infantile tirades.

You loudly,and repeatedly said you had put him on ignore and yet you obviously did no such thing. That's called what?

Do what you said you were going to do:

S/N :"And civil I will stay. You will never catch me off guard like that again." 5/18/13

Perhaps you Rippon should re-evaluate your role as proctor for SN. Is that your job?
 

evangelist6589

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Okay, I'm saying all this because you sound like someone I know and care about and this is exactly what I would tell him. So it might sound a little odd in the wording because it's not just generic, but what I'd say to him face to face if he just said to me what you just typed. And if it doesn't pertain to you then fine, but your personality sounds so very similar that I'm going at it the same. :)

Setting reasonable goals and making allowances if something temporarily changes your course.

That's always different for each person and each goal, whether it's a long or short term goal, even a daily goal. Sometimes life just happens. People get colds, or traffic is bad, or your body made you take five breaks from work in one day when that wasn't part of the plan or someone at home was sick and your boss gets disappointed that you called in, but you have to take care of your family too and yourself if you're too sick to go and be safe while there. You need goals, but just as much, you need to learn that you're not a bad person when life happens. It's part of what makes it all interesting and what it is. Yeah, some people hate that, but let's not get all "Brave New World" here. It wouldn't end well for the ones that don't like anything to ever get messy.

Not allowing others to define how you feel beyond a reasonable point. For example, if you didn't do a decent job, there's not much point in not taking the consequences. However, if you did decent and you know it and your boss or the person next to you is having a bad day, you still might go ahead and (unfairly) accept their criticism if it's not abusive, because that's probably just how you are and it's not my intent or right to say you shouldn't do that, but in your heart, you should not be thinking to yourself that it's your fault. You should be thinking "what is going on in this person's life that they are lashing out at me when I did nothing wrong?" Instead of bringing up feelings that you're not good enough or that somehow it is your fault, try to find compassion for them and realize that it is their problem, not yours. Pray for them. Realize they need it. And pray for yourself. You need it to when you're treated wrong. You're not a sissy to need comfort from the Holy Spirit.

Sometimes, people are their own worst critics, and also very sensitive to perceived criticism. People like that tend to get taken advantage of, then they feel even worse because they feel dumb after, but then tend to feel better about it by telling themselves "I'll act Christian about it and take it as a suffering for Christ." You're allowed to be angry...and sin not. You're allowed to be more cautious and you're allowed to be careful.
With this personality, it's also a good idea to think for a little while before automatically feeling bad over something someone said. Ask yourself a few times if there's another way it could be interpreted. Try to train your brain to always think of the positive interpretation first. (of course sometimes it's just really obvious that it wasn't!)

I have and plan to admit every mistake and strive to be humble. There are lots of jobs around here and its not like in SC where jobs where hard to find. I plan to work my best and do my best and stay OT. But yes life just happens sometimes, but being humble is my goal.
 

evangelist6589

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Evangelist

From my very simplistic observations of your contributions, you set your personal expectations bar at times too for yourself to reach. You should simply recognize that a Job or career is simply a means to provide sustenance for ourselves and families. You should be patient, making yourself available, and "observe" for opportunities to share and inject your faith into a conversation, rather than trying to make those opportunities happen. When people know and respect you, and that can take time, they will often unknowingly grant you those opportunities to share the joy in your heart. Sharing your faith, in the context of working relationships is considerably different than any kind of "preaching", street preaching or otherwise. Concentrate on preparing and making YOUR heart available, God will grow you and grant you opportunities to share HIS message and love with others. Be patient.


Thank you. Very good idea.
 

evangelist6589

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We are our own worst enemy. Don't push yourself too hard. Just be effective, but do take breaks to eat and also decompress when you can. I'm afraid the breakneck pace at which you are going could burn you out quickly and you could become cynical towards the job which will in fact affect your effectiveness.

Work hard, do a great job, but do take time to think of you my man.

What if I can't keep up with the pace if I take breaks? Well the boss told me they are looking to hire additional help as its too much for one person. But in the meantime what should I do? I am doing lots of catch up due to the sloth employee they fired whom did not keep much records or accuracy. I am also learning a new job...
 
What if I can't keep up with the pace if I take breaks? Well the boss told me they are looking to hire additional help as its too much for one person. But in the meantime what should I do? I am doing lots of catch up due to the sloth employee they fired whom did not keep much records or accuracy. I am also learning a new job...
Why don't you discuss that with your boss? If he/she believes you are doing a good job, I'm sure they would listen to your concerns and give you some guidance.
 
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