My position on the Trinity

[1689Dave]

Define what?

I cannot answer your question using common definitions. You might not agree with them. So use your definition and I'll consider it.

 

[1689Dave]

Prove it. Provide a quote where I attacked the "symbol of Chalcedon" in any of these threads.

OR, as YOU say....be called a liar.

Why did you attack me if not for that? It is all I provided to correct the Nestorianism being preached in this forum.

 

[JonC]

Opinion proves nothing. You changed horses in midstream.

Stop lying. No member is buying it because you have accused all that have engaged you with heresy.

My original claim is the same. Christ is "One Person, Two Natures (inseparable, yet without mixture), completely God, completely human".

 

[JonC]

Why did you attack me if not for that? It is all I provided to correct the Nestorianism being preached in this forum.

I never attacked you. I asked you to stop attacking another member for using the words "fully God, fully man". I said that I also hold the position (as that member did) that Christ is "One Person, Two Natures (inseparable, yet without mixture), completely God, completely human" and YOU attacked me calling me a heretic for affirming orthodox Christianity.

That is why you cannot provide any evidence for your accusations....they are false (lies).

 

[1689Dave]

Stop lying. No member is buying it because you have accused all that have engaged you with heresy.

My original claim is the same. Christ is "One Person, Two Natures (inseparable, yet without mixture), completely God, completely human".

I responded to the OP with the symbol of Chalcedon to correct the Nestorianism in the OP and now the forum. You attacked it trying to prove Nestorianism.

 

[1689Dave]

I never attacked you. I asked you to stop attacking another member for using the words "fully God, fully man". I said that I also hold the position (as that member did) that Christ is "One Person, Two Natures (inseparable, yet without mixture), completely God, completely human" and YOU attacked me calling me a heretic for affirming orthodox Christianity.

That is why you cannot provide any evidence for your accusations....they are false (lies).

All anyone needs to do is read my first reply to the OP (Chalcedon), followed by your Nestorian attack on me and it.

 

[JonC]

I responded to the OP with the symbol of Chalcedon to correct the Nestorianism in the OP and now the forum. You attacked it trying to prove Nestorianism.

That's part of the issue. There was no Nestorianism in the OP. You are ignorant when it comes to historical theology and these creeds. That is not a bad thing, necessarily, but it is an issue when you try to engage others on the topic.

I do not care what you believe, but you cannot continue to lie about other members. That is wrong.

 

[1689Dave]

That's part of the issue. There was no Nestorianism in the OP. You are ignorant when it comes to historical theology and these creeds. That is not a bad thing, necessarily, but it is an issue when you try to engage others on the topic.

I do not care what you believe, but you cannot continue to lie about other members. That is wrong.

It was fully Nestorian along with you.

 

[agedman]

It was fully Nestorian along with you.

Perhaps it would be wise to remind the casual readers exactly what you claim is “fully Nestorian” of the OP by quoting from it.

 

[1689Dave]

Perhaps it would be wise to remind the casual readers exactly what you claim is “fully Nestorian” of the OP by quoting from it.

I gave references. See for yourself if you know anything about theology.

 

[agedman]

I gave references. See for yourself if you know anything about theology.

You did?

You wrote the OP of this thread.

Did I miss your claim of Nestorian?

Please quote that part of the OP that makes the claim.

 

[1689Dave]

You did?

You wrote the OP of this thread.

Did I miss your claim of Nestorian?

Please quote that part of the OP that makes the claim.

It's your job to prove me wrong from the OP and my follow-up. Try to figure out the thread name first, then begin. It's been changed since we started. Go for it and prove me wrong.

 

[Yeshua1]

He challenged this originally. I was saying this and he attacked me trying to push Nestorianism instead. How twisted can this get?

Can you show to us where he went into heresy on this topic?

 

[agedman]

It's your job to prove me wrong from the OP and my follow-up. Try to figure out the thread name first, then begin. It's been changed since we started. Go for it and prove me wrong.

No, it is not my job.

I merely ask you to sustain your claim concerning the OP, considering YOU wrote it, and it did not mention Nestorian thinking.

Perhaps, in exuberance, you over stated. That happens, even in the best theological discussions.

 

[1689Dave]

No, it is not my job.

I merely ask you to sustain your claim concerning the OP, considering YOU wrote it, and it did not mention Nestorian thinking.

Perhaps, in exuberance, you over stated. That happens, even in the best theological discussions.

Then stay out of it until you are willing to take the time to learn about it. Be a pro.

 

[1689Dave]

Can you show to us where he went into heresy on this topic?

He did not define fully man and fully God = Nestorianism. He had trouble with the Symbol of Chalcedon and attacked it along with others.

 

[ThyWordIsTruth]

Nestorianism, (what you suggest about Christ) produces a false Christ and a false Christianity.

it looks like you really don't understand the teachings of the heretic Nestorius. To say that my Christology is what this guy taught, is beyond laughable! Please check your facts before you post in public

 

[Yeshua1]

He did not define fully man and fully God = Nestorianism. He had trouble with the Symbol of Chalcedon and attacked it along with others.

Jesus is fully human and fully God though!

 

[1689Dave]

it looks like you really don't understand the teachings of the heretic Nestorius. To say that my Christology is what this guy taught, is beyond laughable! Please check your facts before you post in public

Check yourself out with the Symbol of Chalcedon. If you reject it you have a false Christ and a false Christianity. This does not mean you are not saved. Just that the truth is of no value to you.

 

[ThyWordIsTruth]

The symbol of Chalcedon is the most complete and it defines what is meant by fully human and fully God and it refutes all you say.

How about trurning to the Holy Bible for your theology, and not banging on about the early "creeds" and teachings of the early Christians, as neither are Infallible and Inerrant, which ONLY the 66 Original Autographs of the Holy Bible are!