My position on the Trinity

[1689Dave]

No one has ever claimed that view of Him!

The church claims it. Heretics are condemned by not claiming it.

 

[Yeshua1]

While no one HERE has, technically some people have claimed something like that. God took over the human body of Zombie Jesus. Heresies are very inventive.

There is that view here about the human nature of Jesus now buried!

 

[1689Dave]

Do we need both of them?

Do we need books?

 

[Yeshua1]

Do we need books?

Are the Creeds required for us to be able to mature in the faith?

 

[1689Dave]

Are the Creeds required for us to be able to mature in the faith?

It depends on your church and how competent they are.

 

[Yeshua1]

It depends on your church and how competent they are.

No Christian really needs them though!

 

[1689Dave]

No Christian really needs them though!

Stupid is not a virtue. The had creeds in Acts they studied.

 

[agedman]

Two persons/two natures.

Christ is two persons?

Did the will of one have to conquer and rule over the other?

Historically, who also made that claim?

 

[1689Dave]

Christ is two persons?

Did the will of one have to conquer and rule over the other?

Historically, who also made that claim?

This is the Nestorian heresy you spout.

 

[agedman]

This is the Nestorian heresy you spout.

Not true.

I quoted YOUR post.

YOU stated Christ was two persons, not me.

 

[1689Dave]

Not true.

I quoted YOUR post.

YOU stated Christ was two persons, not me.

I never said that. My whole effort is backed by scripture and the Symbol of Chalcedon that refutes two persons.

 

[Yeshua1]

I never said that. My whole effort is backed by scripture and the Symbol of Chalcedon that refutes two persons.

NONE ever stated here that Jesus was 2 persons, 2 natures yes!

 

[agedman]

I never said that. My whole effort is backed by scripture and the Symbol of Chalcedon that refutes two persons.

Are you claiming that I did no quote your post accurately?

YOU posted “Two persons/two natures.”

Or do you deny your own writing?

Perhaps, again, in your exuberance, you over stated?

For the record and clarification:

Do you hold that Christ was the pre-incarnate only and unique son of God who set aside His glory to be incarnated as ONE person with TWO nature’s in hypostatic union - fully God and fully human inseparable yet complete natures in one person?

That this same Christ ascended to sit with the Father until He physically returns to rule this earth as fully God and fully man in hypostatic union until the ceasing of time?

One person - two natures?​

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[Squire Robertsson]

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[1689Dave]

Are you claiming that I did no quote your post accurately?

YOU posted “Two persons/two natures.”

Or do you deny your own writing?

Perhaps, again, in your exuberance, you over stated?

For the record and clarification:

Do you hold that Christ was the pre-incarnate only and unique son of God who set aside His glory to be incarnated as ONE person with TWO nature’s in hypostatic union - fully God and fully human inseparable yet complete natures in one person?

That this same Christ ascended to sit with the Father until He physically returns to rule this earth as fully God and fully man in hypostatic union until the ceasing of time?

One person - two natures?​

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Please provide the quote in context. Two persons/two natures are Nestorianism, a heresy.

 

[1689Dave]

NONE ever stated here that Jesus was 2 persons, 2 natures yes!

Why the attack on me and the symbol of Chalcedon if most, including yourself, agree with that? It's because most preach Nestorianism. Or at least did when we began.

 

[atpollard]

Please provide the quote in context. Two persons/two natures are Nestorianism, a heresy.

You two are funny. Here is a replay "in context" ... [each post quoted the post immediately before it]

Only because you do not understand what Nestorian means.
The belief that Christ is One Person, two natures, completely God, completely man is a denial of Nestorian belief.
You need to study more before you accuse others of heresy.

Two persons/two natures.

Christ is two persons?
Did the will of one have to conquer and rule over the other?
Historically, who also made that claim?

This is the Nestorian heresy you spout.

Not true.
I quoted YOUR post.
YOU stated Christ was two persons, not me.

I never said that. My whole effort is backed by scripture and the Symbol of Chalcedon that refutes two persons.

Are you claiming that I did no quote your post accurately?
YOU posted “Two persons/two natures.”
Or do you deny your own writing?
Perhaps, again, in your exuberance, you over stated?

For the record and clarification:

Do you hold that Christ was the pre-incarnate only and unique son of God who set aside His glory to be incarnated as ONE person with TWO nature’s in hypostatic union - fully God and fully human inseparable yet complete natures in one person?

That this same Christ ascended to sit with the Father until He physically returns to rule this earth as fully God and fully man in hypostatic union until the ceasing of time?

One person - two natures?​

Please provide the quote in context. Two persons/two natures are Nestorianism, a heresy.

It reminded me a little of ...

 

[1689Dave]

You two are funny. Here is a replay "in context" ... [each post quoted the post immediately before it]

How important is the truth? Do you have any good ones we can laugh at?
















It reminded me a little of ...

 

[atpollard]

How important is the truth? Do you have any good ones we can laugh at?

Yup.

 

[Yeshua1]

Why the attack on me and the symbol of Chalcedon if most, including yourself, agree with that? It's because most preach Nestorianism. Or at least did when we began.

NONE here were "preaching" that!