My Take On The Big G@y "Official" Travel ban

[Bro. Curtis]

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In this day and age, do we really need to spend taxpayer dollars flying politicians around the country ?

 

[targus]

My first thought when I heard about the "nonessential" travel ban to Indiana was, "Why are tax dollars being spent for "nonessential" travel anywhere?"

This little show just may "come back and bite him" as CTB loves to say.

 

[church mouse guy]

I think that the Cuban blogs made the best point:

The left says don't go to Indiana because some Christians might not want to bake a cake for a sodomite wedding, etc. (although gays have no trouble baking cakes for the KKK). And then the left adds do go to Cuba, a Stalinist state that has murdered thousands and imprisoned tens of thousands for no reason at all and systematically discriminates against Afro-Cubans (who make up 70% of the population). And I won't even go into the child prostitution in Cuba, all for the benefit of the Castros' bank accounts. I think that I read that Fidel has 25 homes.

 

[Salty]

The Mayor of the Salt City has also put in place a ban on official travel to Indiana.
The funny part is when she said, she is not sure what she would have done if the Orangemen had made it to the Final Four.

The Mayor stated that the City does not tolerate intolerance.
Yet, at the annual "holiday" tree lighting, (which I have attended in the past) no mention of Christ or Christmas is ever made.

 

[Zaac]

I think that the Cuban blogs made the best point:

The left says don't go to Indiana because some Christians might not want to bake a cake for a sodomite wedding, etc. (although gays have no trouble baking cakes for the KKK). And then the left adds do go to Cuba, a Stalinist state that has murdered thousands and imprisoned tens of thousands for no reason at all and systematically discriminates against Afro-Cubans (who make up 70% of the population). And I won't even go into the child prostitution in Cuba, all for the benefit of the Castros' bank accounts. I think that I read that Fidel has 25 homes.

Man, you've got Cuba on your brain. Go visit. They really are nice people.

 

[Use of Time]

The Mayor of the Salt City has also put in place a ban on official travel to Indiana.
The funny part is when she said, she is not sure what she would have done if the Orangemen had made it to the Final Four.

The Mayor stated that the City does not tolerate intolerance.
Yet, at the annual "holiday" tree lighting, (which I have attended in the past) no mention of Christ or Christmas is ever made.

I don't think you know what intolerance is. People not participating in YOUR religion is not intolerance. Good grief.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Now, NASCAR has weighed in on it, condemning the Indiana law.

Am I the only one who sees the irony that they have a Christian invocation before every race, but then say Christians should be forced to violate their conscience and Biblical teaching?

Talk about driving around in circles!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Now, NASCAR has weighed in on it, condemning the Indiana law.

Am I the only one who sees the irony that they have a Christian invocation before every race, but then say Christians should be forced to violate their conscience and Biblical teaching?

Talk about driving around in circles!

Where does the Bible say it is prohibited to bake a cake for a gay person? Baking a cake can't offend your religious beliefs, can it? Lifestyle may offend you, but baking a cake?

If you are going on feelings then should a bakery have the right to refuse to bake a cake for a smoker because smoking offends their religious belief of not defiling the body? Can a business owned by a fundamentalists refuse to serve a Catholic because it offends his religious beliefs?

Where would/will this foolishness end? I am not justifying homosexuality, but pointing out the ridiculous places this idea could go.

 

[annsni]

Interestingly enough, our church went to the owner of a building to rent in the area that we wanted to start a church. It was a former movie theater and then OTB but had been closed for a number of years. We are a larger church with no debt. The Jewish owner said he wouldn't rent to a church. I wonder if those up in arms about this law would agree with the owner or with the church.

 

[Salty]

Interestingly enough, our church went to the owner of a building to rent in the area that we wanted to start a church. It was a former movie theater and then OTB but had been closed for a number of years. We are a larger church with no debt. The Jewish owner said he wouldn't rent to a church. I wonder if those up in arms about this law would agree with the owner or with the church.

I am of the opinion that a businessman should be able to choose with whom he does business or not.

A few years ago, I was looking for place to hold a Bible study. The local community youth center director told me I could use his facility, as it was closed on Sunday. However, the town said NO - due to separation of church and State. I didn't want to go thur the hassle - so we found something else.

 

[church mouse guy]

Now, NASCAR has weighed in on it, condemning the Indiana law.

Am I the only one who sees the irony that they have a Christian invocation before every race, but then say Christians should be forced to violate their conscience and Biblical teaching?

Talk about driving around in circles!

Very funny!

The state of Connecticut banned travel to Indiana and they have the same law that Indiana just passed. :type:

About 30 state and the federal government have the same sort of protection through laws or court decisions.

This is just a Democrat political issue for 2016.

 

[Zaac]

Where does the Bible say it is prohibited to bake a cake for a gay person? Baking a cake can't offend your religious beliefs, can it? Lifestyle may offend you, but baking a cake?

This is what I too am trying to understand. Like I've said in the past, if I don't want to do it, you cant make me do it.

All they got to do is get you to bake the cake and then stick their own little groomsmen on top.

Would we not bake a cake for someone buying it for his girlfriends birthday? By the way, he is fornicating with her.

I just think if you go down this road as a businessperson, be consistent. Ask all your customers if they are doing something with which you disagree before you will perform a service for them

If you are going on feelings then should a bakery have the right to refuse to bake a cake for a smoker because smoking offends their religious belief of not defiling the body? Can a business owned by a fundamentalists refuse to serve a Catholic because it offends his religious beliefs?

After a while, they might as well not be in business.

Where would/will this foolishness end? I am not justifying homosexuality, but pointing out the ridiculous places this idea could go.

I agree.

 

[Zaac]

The Indiana law explicitly allows any for-profit business to assert a right to “the free exercise of religion.” The federal RFRA doesn’t contain such language, and neither does any of the state RFRAs except South Carolina’s; in fact, Louisiana and Pennsylvania, explicitly exclude for-profit businesses from the protection of their RFRAs.



The new Indiana statute also contains this odd language: “A person whose exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened, by a violation of this chapter may assert the violation or impending violation as a claim or defense in a judicial or administrative proceeding, regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity is a party to the proceeding.” Neither the federal RFRA, nor 18 of the 19 state statutes cited by the Post, says anything like this; only the Texas RFRA, passed in 1999, contains similar language.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ianas-religious-freedom-law-different/388997/

 

[church mouse guy]

Where does the Bible say it is prohibited to bake a cake for a gay person? Baking a cake can't offend your religious beliefs, can it? Lifestyle may offend you, but baking a cake?....

You would bake a theme cake for the KKK or the nazi party, wouldn't you? I mean it would be a lot of big bucks in your pocket, wouldn't it?

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Very funny!

The state of Connecticut banned travel to Indiana and they have the same law that Indiana just passed.

I heard that on Buck Sexton this morning.

 

[Jkdbuck76]

Now, NASCAR has weighed in on it, condemning the Indiana law.

Am I the only one who sees the irony that they have a Christian invocation before every race, but then say Christians should be forced to violate their conscience and Biblical teaching?

Talk about driving around in circles!

NASCAR = Non-Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks.

Yeah. I said it.

 

[church mouse guy]

I heard that on Buck Sexton this morning.

Forget where I heard it. They say that all this law does is allow a person a chance before the court. It might allow a lot of mom and pop businesses to protect their life savings as well as allow churches to keep their property.

Walmart is so worried about this issue but they are not worried about human rights in China where their stuff is manufactured.

 

[church mouse guy]

The Gov. of NY denounced travel to Indiana on his way to Cuba, where g@ys are routinely arrested and tortured by the Castro brothers.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

The Gov. of NY denounced travel to Indiana on his way to Cuba, where g@ys are routinely arrested and tortured by the Castro brothers.

In the words of Buck Owens, "I wouldn't live in New York City if they gave me the whole danged town!" I concur.

 

[just-want-peace]

In the words of Buck Owens, "I wouldn't live in New York City if they gave me the whole danged town!" I concur.

Kinda like I stated once about Atlanta; "You could not GIVE me any land in Atlanta unless I could lease it or sell it. If I had to use it myself, (home, business, etc) I would not accept it!!":thumbs: