People accuse Calvinism as being wrong because they say it denies free-will. That is not what Calvinists believe. They deem the choices made in the Bible free-will. There is so much sinning bearing false witness in the flesh of men. Ask any Calvinist, and they will tell you they believe man has a free-will, so what are they really saying then?
What Calvinists are wrong about is they believe they are premade for salvation like robots, which puffs up. They don't think they were premade for hell, but for heaven, because God saved them so they could believe. Their spirit can not sense it is wrong for God to premake people for just hell or heaven. They kill the image of God, because they say in order to come out of total depravity (a false teaching), they can't come to the cross from the image of God in which they are made (this first grace), but that God had to have unconditionally premade them irresistibly and limited, like the Arian nation or natural selection. They truly despise Gen. 1.26,27, the garden choice an Abel's right offering. God foreknew the choice that Abel would make. He chose Abel because He foreknew his choice.
They really do despise that God can predestine by foreknowing our choice. They have no faith to believe God is all-knowing to have this ability. So instead the Calvinist believes the person needs to be pre-programmed long before to be saved - this is what they mean by "chosen," which is not in the same sense as "chosen" by God predestining by foreknowledge (Rom. 8.29) of our choice.
"Chosen by premaking" does not glorify God. God does not want to walk with robots, but man made in His image who receives the cross. Obviously Calvinism is a Pharisaical heresy, because though we are still fallen, we are still made in God's image, so yes, we can come to the cross, not by the will of the flesh but by that part of the will made in God's image which God allows us to receive the redemptive design. The image of God can not be destroyed by the mind of a Calvinist. Never, and I repeat, never say that God saves you first then you can believe. This is a zombism.
If a cult doesn't teach non-OSAS to (control you and passify you), they seem to want to teach Calvinism (pride you up and passify you). In either case, (RCC or Reformers, e.g. puritans, Presbyterians, Lutherans) want to passify you to control you into their system. It is not so pure or presbyter is it? Luther was notoriously confused, for he couldn't let go of the false teaching of total depravity while contradictorily still believing in resistible grace. Those who know anything about Lutheranism know this matter always gets shoved under the rug. You can't have it both ways. Either we can resist God's grace because we are not totally deprave (though fallen), or we can't because we are zombies. Be "not double tongued" (1 Tim. 3.8).
I've debated this topic on a forum before but it did not go very far. Thoughts?
~Alen, TisMe
What Calvinists are wrong about is they believe they are premade for salvation like robots, which puffs up. They don't think they were premade for hell, but for heaven, because God saved them so they could believe. Their spirit can not sense it is wrong for God to premake people for just hell or heaven. They kill the image of God, because they say in order to come out of total depravity (a false teaching), they can't come to the cross from the image of God in which they are made (this first grace), but that God had to have unconditionally premade them irresistibly and limited, like the Arian nation or natural selection. They truly despise Gen. 1.26,27, the garden choice an Abel's right offering. God foreknew the choice that Abel would make. He chose Abel because He foreknew his choice.
They really do despise that God can predestine by foreknowing our choice. They have no faith to believe God is all-knowing to have this ability. So instead the Calvinist believes the person needs to be pre-programmed long before to be saved - this is what they mean by "chosen," which is not in the same sense as "chosen" by God predestining by foreknowledge (Rom. 8.29) of our choice.
"Chosen by premaking" does not glorify God. God does not want to walk with robots, but man made in His image who receives the cross. Obviously Calvinism is a Pharisaical heresy, because though we are still fallen, we are still made in God's image, so yes, we can come to the cross, not by the will of the flesh but by that part of the will made in God's image which God allows us to receive the redemptive design. The image of God can not be destroyed by the mind of a Calvinist. Never, and I repeat, never say that God saves you first then you can believe. This is a zombism.
If a cult doesn't teach non-OSAS to (control you and passify you), they seem to want to teach Calvinism (pride you up and passify you). In either case, (RCC or Reformers, e.g. puritans, Presbyterians, Lutherans) want to passify you to control you into their system. It is not so pure or presbyter is it? Luther was notoriously confused, for he couldn't let go of the false teaching of total depravity while contradictorily still believing in resistible grace. Those who know anything about Lutheranism know this matter always gets shoved under the rug. You can't have it both ways. Either we can resist God's grace because we are not totally deprave (though fallen), or we can't because we are zombies. Be "not double tongued" (1 Tim. 3.8).
I've debated this topic on a forum before but it did not go very far. Thoughts?
~Alen, TisMe
