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My Top Five -- What Are Yours?

Rippon

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I think that with a number of modern English Bible versions that have come out, we are getting closer and closer to better renderings and improved communication of the original texts.The scholarship behind these Bibles has been top-notch.

It's getting to be a crowded field, but that will only make it more ideal for the Christian consumer.We are experiencing an embarrassment of riches effect.Let's see. There is the HCSB,NET Bible and TNIV.Then there will soon be the completed ISV that we can feast upon ( or 'on' in contemporary speech ).

These four are mediating translations. They have a balanced approach compared with a primarily formally-equivalent method on the one hand, or chiefly a functionally-equivalent way of translation. on the other hand.

The NRSV was released in 1989 and is due for an upgrade. But since theological liberals would be revising it, one would hope that they would stay keep within the bounds of integrity.Next year will be its 20th anniversary. What an appropriate time for an update.

Those 5 are my favorites. But, on the sidelines is the reliable NLTse waiting to service the needs of the community of believers with a more idiomatic approach.

I don't know if the NKJB team ( or what's left of it) is willing to revise their translation. It has been 26 years since publication. It should really be called the :NQNKJ ( Not Quite New King James Bible )by now.

If I am losing hope for a NKJB update, then what am I to say regarding the MLB? It was in 1969 -- 39 years ago that this remarkable translation came to the attention of the public. I really respect this version. It has many admirable qualities. If the NIV hadn't come on the scene a few years later, the MLB could have been more widely received.
 
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EdSutton

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Rippon said:
I think that with a number of modern English Bible versions that have come out, we are getting closer and closer to better renderings and improved communication of the original texts.The scholarship behind these Bibles has been top-notch.

It's getting to be a crowded field, but that will only make it more ideal for the Christian consumer.We are experiencing an embarrassment of riches effect.Let's see. There is the HCSB,NET Bible and TNIV.Then there will soon be the completed ISV that we can feast upon ( or 'on' in contemporary speech ).

These four are mediating translations. They have a balanced approach compared with a primarily formally-equivalent method on the one hand, or chiefly a functionally-equivalent way of translation. on the other hand.

The NRSV was released in 1989 and is due for an upgrade. But since theological liberals would be revising it, one would hope that they would stay keep within the bounds of integrity.Next year will be its 20th anniversary. What an appropriate time for an update.

Those 5 are my favorites. But, on the sidelines is the reliable NLTse waiting to service the needs of the community of believers with a more idiomatic approach.

I don't know if the NKJB team ( or what's left of it) is willing to revise their translation. It has been 26 years since publication. It should really be called the :NQNKJ ( Not Quite New King James Bible )by now.

If I am losing hope for a NKJB update, then what am I to say regarding the MLB? It was in 1969 -- 39 years ago that this remarkable translation came to the attention of the public. I really respect this version. It has many admirable qualities. If the NIV hadn't come on the scene a few years later, the MLB could have been more widely received.
My top five versions would have to be ones with large print, so I don't have to pull out my glasses just to read them. :thumbs:

Ed
 

Askjo

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My top five is only the KJV:
  • Texts
  • Translators
  • Technique
  • Theology
  • God’s Word Kept Intact in English
The KJV is the best translation over modern versions since almost 400 years. None of modern versions can beat it.
 

tinytim

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If I was KJVO...
It would be... in order my top pick on top.
KJV 1883
KJV 1769
NKJV
KJV 1611
KJV 2000
 

Pastor Larry

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Askjo said:
My top five is only the KJV:
  • Texts
  • Translators
  • Technique
  • Theology
  • God’s Word Kept Intact in English
The KJV is the best translation over modern versions since almost 400 years. None of modern versions can beat it.
Given your five bullet points, the KJV is inferior on every single count when compared to the mainstream modern versions such as the NASB, NIV, and ESV. The KJV is an excellent translation. However, it is four hundred years old. It does not reflect current standard usage of the English language. And was not able to take advantage of the some of the things that God has preserved for us. In effect, it looks at God's gracious gifts of manuscript evidence and says "No thank you." It may well be one of the most egregious forms of ingratitude around today.

Of course, I speak with some hyperbole, but only some. The KJV is a good translation, but it is only that. In many ways, it is inferior to modern translations simply by virtue of its language, its grammar and syntax, its translators, and it clearly and unquestionably uses an inferior text.

It is a wonderful testimony to God's will and power to work through imperfect means, just as he does through both people and other translations.
 

Cutter

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Pastor Larry said:
Given your five bullet points, the KJV is inferior on every single count when compared to the mainstream modern versions such as the NASB, NIV, and ESV. The KJV is an excellent translation. However, it is four hundred years old. It does not reflect current standard usage of the English language. And was not able to take advantage of the some of the things that God has preserved for us. In effect, it looks at God's gracious gifts of manuscript evidence and says "No thank you." It may well be one of the most egregious forms of ingratitude around today.

Of course, I speak with some hyperbole, but only some. The KJV is a good translation, but it is only that. In many ways, it is inferior to modern translations simply by virtue of its language, its grammar and syntax, its translators, and it clearly and unquestionably uses an inferior text.

It is a wonderful testimony to God's will and power to work through imperfect means, just as he does through both people and other translations.


What a crock!
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Cutter said:
What a crock!

Thank you for that enlightening input to the topic at hand.

I don't think I would have 5.

1 - NKJV
2 - KJV
3- Geneva

hmm, I think thats about it for me
 
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Pastor Larry

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What a crock!
Hardly. One of the most destructive doctrines to Christianity is the doctrine that Askjo and others believe in. It is destructive because it undermines the authority of Scripture, and it does so on clearly unbiblical and unhistorical bases. All Christians should stand against that kind of doctrine. I have dealt with people whose faith in Scripture is weak or destroyed because someone told them that one translation alone was the Word of God. I have dealt with those who have no faith in Scripture because they have never been taught basic principles of translation.

There is no "best translation" today. I use different translations for different things.

For preaching I use the NASB. For reading I use the NIV typically. I routinely compare the ESV and NRSV. I check the NKJV for textual variants and the KJV for wording since I know some people will be carrying that one.
 

HankD

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The choice of versions and the manuscript families behind them will no doubt remain a subjective matter until the Lord returns.

Obvious reason: We don't have the originals.

But as Pastor Larry has said, we can have faith that God has preserved His Word in the thousands of copies and ancient translations He allowed to remain on the earth.

Even the KJV translators knew this and declared in their prologue to the 1611 KJV that the proliferation of translations helped us to know the "sense of the Scriptures".

NKJV
KJV
NASB
NIV
Douay-Rheims
And many others...

HankD
 

Cutter

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Pastor Larry said:
Hardly. One of the most destructive doctrines to Christianity is the doctrine that Askjo and others believe in. It is destructive because it undermines the authority of Scripture, and it does so on clearly unbiblical and unhistorical bases.

Believing that your Bible is the Word of God and being content with believing your Bible is the Word of God is destructive doctrine? And you think KJV'ers are off base!?:eek:
If anything, being confident with the Bible you use, study, and believe to be God's Word produces faith in God and trust in knowing His will, then one can "teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee."
This intolerance that others have for the Christians that believe the KJV to be God's Word is relentless and ignorant. Anytime a member of the board post something in favor of and/or their stand on the KJV they are immediately met with such foolishness as you have posted. What other Bible evokes such emotions. If just any old thing will do for you, fine, but let others make their own choice too, please!:BangHead:
 

StefanM

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ESV
NASB
NIV
NLT (2nd ed.)

I don't have a particular preference for any other translations.
 

Thinkingstuff

Active Member
Rippon said:
I think that with a number of modern English Bible versions that have come out, we are getting closer and closer to better renderings and improved communication of the original texts.The scholarship behind these Bibles has been top-notch.

It's getting to be a crowded field, but that will only make it more ideal for the Christian consumer.We are experiencing an embarrassment of riches effect.Let's see. There is the HCSB,NET Bible and TNIV.Then there will soon be the completed ISV that we can feast upon ( or 'on' in contemporary speech ).

These four are mediating translations. They have a balanced approach compared with a primarily formally-equivalent method on the one hand, or chiefly a functionally-equivalent way of translation. on the other hand.

The NRSV was released in 1989 and is due for an upgrade. But since theological liberals would be revising it, one would hope that they would stay keep within the bounds of integrity.Next year will be its 20th anniversary. What an appropriate time for an update.

Those 5 are my favorites. But, on the sidelines is the reliable NLTse waiting to service the needs of the community of believers with a more idiomatic approach.

I don't know if the NKJB team ( or what's left of it) is willing to revise their translation. It has been 26 years since publication. It should really be called the :NQNKJ ( Not Quite New King James Bible )by now.

If I am losing hope for a NKJB update, then what am I to say regarding the MLB? It was in 1969 -- 39 years ago that this remarkable translation came to the attention of the public. I really respect this version. It has many admirable qualities. If the NIV hadn't come on the scene a few years later, the MLB could have been more widely received.

Just to keep things jumping I also like the New American Study Bible and the Jerusalem bible.

But the NIV is my most read.

I like the King James Bible however I also like Shakespear.
 

Rippon

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TCGreek said:
TNIV
NRSV
NLTse
NASB
HCSB

As usual, you're the one guy who has a similar feel for English Bible translations as I have. We're on the same page -- just different paragraphs.
 
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