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Natural Revelation and Special Revelation are by the same word of God.

37818

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The difference being one are known as the laws of the universe and the other reveales our Lord Jesus Christ, Luke 24:44.
 

Van

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If you look at what God has made and discern a creator, rather than happenstance over billions of years, then you have discerned God from Natural Revelation. If you read into scripture what you think it ought to say, then you have not discerned God's message from Special Revelation.

Thus rather than bicker over God's revelatory message, maybe we should talk about what we have learned and why?
 

Van

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The Big Bang theory teaches the Universe had a beginning, but prior "science" claimed the universe had existed always. One theory sort of agrees with an interpretation of special revelation, the other does not.
 

Van

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Usually, when "science" is said to demonstrate "scripture" is wrong, one of many interpretations of scripture, such as teaching the earth is flat, is used as a whipping boy. Atheists have used Calvinist interpretations to show scripture is wrong. But when confronted with an alternate interpretation, crickets.
 

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How about addressing Natural Revelation?
 
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37818

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The point of this thread is God's word is not limited to the written word of Special Revelation. And that written word as God originally gave them have the same immutability as the observable natural laws of the universe. Like gravity.
 

kyredneck

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The point of this thread is God's word is not limited to the written word of Special Revelation.

1 For the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament showeth his handiwork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, And night unto night showeth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language; Their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, And their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, And rejoiceth as a strong man to run his course.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heavens, And his circuit unto the ends of it; And there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. Ps 19
 

37818

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1 For the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament showeth his handiwork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, And night unto night showeth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language; Their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, And their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, And rejoiceth as a strong man to run his course.
6 His going forth is from the end of the heavens, And his circuit unto the ends of it; And there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. Ps 19
Re: Romans 10:18 in regards to Romans 10:17.
 

kyredneck

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Psalms 19:4? Pentecost? I do not think so.

It's too bad that you don't see it. It's your loss. I suppose you also don't think John the Baptist raised valleys, leveled mountains, graded the rough places, and straightened highways, and that he was also Elijah.
 

kyredneck

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@37818, question for you. Who is them and they?

1 Brethren, my heart`s desire and my supplication to God is for them, that they may be saved.
18 But I say, Did they not hear? Yea, verily, Their sound went out into all the earth, And their words unto the ends of the world. Ro 10
 

37818

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It's too bad that you don't see it. It's your loss. I suppose you also don't think John the Baptist raised valleys, leveled mountains, graded the rough places, and straightened highways, and that he was also Elijah.
Who else thinks Psalms 19:4 refers to Pentecost?
 
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37818

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@37818, question for you. Who is them and they?

1 Brethren, my heart`s desire and my supplication to God is for them, that they may be saved.
18 But I say, Did they not hear? Yea, verily, Their sound went out into all the earth, And their words unto the ends of the world. Ro 10
The purpose of natural revelation is so men have faith. So they have no excuse for not believing truth.
 

37818

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From the context, Romans 9:31-33; Romans 10:1, Romans 10:18, who is them and they?
Context? Romans 10:17-18 is context. Romans 9:31-Romans 10:1 is out side of the context of Romans 10:17-18. Now Romans 10:16, John 12:38 is from Isaiah 53:1 context. My argument stands.
The purpose of natural revelation is so men have faith. So they have no excuse for not believing truth.
 
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