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Never Forget

Earth Wind and Fire

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One of the surest indications that one's position has merit is when the opposition has to resort to insults. Why? Because they have empty pockets. That is all they have in the way of response.
They are morally bankrupt. That is true. Congratulations for both seeing it and calling them on it! :Thumbsup
 

InTheLight

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I get sick of people showing the Twin Towers explosion in order to whip up more unrighteous indignation against peoples who have nothing to do with it.

Thread title: Never Forget. OP's comment: "Bless those who still suffer from the attack."

A simple request.

But you turn it into a conspiracy theory screed.


2. The lack of aircraft evidence from the Shanksville crash. Planes don't just dissolve in the earth like butter in oatmetal. That metal - lots of it - is totally unaccounted for. Oh wait, there was a bandana. And a convenient passport. Please.

Medical examiners have identified most of the people on the place from body fragments recovered from the scene. If not, where are these people?

3. There is no record on camera of a plane hitting the Pentagon. Surely Washington DC - our capital! - would have several redundant surveillance networks that should have given us footage.

4. The hole in the Pentagon was missile-shaped, certainly not from an airplane of the size required in the official narrative.

What about the dozens, probably hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw A PLANE FLY INTO THE PENTAGON?

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asterisktom

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What about the dozens, probably hundreds of eyewitnesses that saw A PLANE FLY INTO THE PENTAGON?

Cognitive dissonance.

What about the dozens of photos and video evidences we would have expected to have surfaced in the most protected and surveilled property in the US - Washington DC, the Pentagon? And yet not one credible photo or video.

This is not a screed. I am asking people to use common sense.
 

asterisktom

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Medical examiners have identified most of the people on the place from body fragments recovered from the scene. If not, where are these people?

I do not know where you are getting this from.

I remember reports from that time that the coroner Walter Miller went there and found no bodies at all. It was a revelation to him. What is even more mysterious - IF you buy into the government scenario - is the lack of airplane parts at the time.

Correction: I double-checked. It was Wallace Miller, of Somerset County. He said:

"I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there."

“I got to the actual crash site and could not believe what I saw. … Usually you see much debris, wreckage, and much noise and commotion. This crash was different. There was no wreckage, no bodies, and no noise. … It appeared as though there were no passengers or crew on this plane.” (David McCall, From Tragedy to Triumph, 2002, pp. 86-87)


Who do we believe? You, or someone who was actually there?
 
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asterisktom

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Thread title: Never Forget. OP's comment: "Bless those who still suffer from the attack."

A simple request.

And I am not asking people to forget. We certainly do need to remember those who still suffer from that attack. But the number who suffer is far greater than those in those buildings. They are mostly in various countries in Asia. Those people far outnumber the two thousand or so in the US.
 

InTheLight

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Cognitive dissonance.

What about the dozens of photos and video evidences we would have expected to have surfaced in the most protected and surveilled property in the US - Washington DC, the Pentagon? And yet not one credible photo or video.

This is not a screed. I am asking people to use common sense.

So you dismiss scores of eyewitnesses that saw a plane fly above the treetops and smash into the Pentagon.

Who has cameras pointed at the sky?

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just-want-peace

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Well, I certainly will not, nor cannot, speak to whether our "gov't" had any involvement or no, BUT, seeing TODAY the pus in the swamp that has reared it's ugly head as of late, I most definitely would not categorically dismiss the possibility!!:Devilish
 

Van

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There are certainly pictures which purport to show the aircraft hitting the pentagon.
 

asterisktom

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So you dismiss scores of eyewitnesses that saw a plane fly above the treetops and smash into the Pentagon.

Who has cameras pointed at the sky?
I am speaking of cameras pointed at the Pentagon. From any and all angles. This is what security cameras do. Good grief, this is basic.
 

asterisktom

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Space cadet post.:Alien:Alien
I suppose these hundreds of reviewers, the overwhelming majority of which were positive for this book, were also "space cadets"?:

Where Did the Towers Go?: Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11 by Judy D. Wood

This is one of the reviews, emphasis mine:

"Dr. Judy Wood is the only person who has successfully filed suit against the U.S. government on 9/11--which went to the Supreme Court, who decided *not* to take up the case. As a scientific mind and well-qualified doctor, she found (and proved) in the comprehensive well-documented research presented here, that it would be against the laws of physics for various scenarios to have occurred. She presents all of the EVIDENCE and discusses each in detail to propose a theory of what actually occurred."
 
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InTheLight

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I am speaking of cameras pointed at the Pentagon. From any and all angles. This is what security cameras do. Good grief, this is basic.

And why would there be security cameras pointed at the exterior walls of the Pentagon? Cameras placed at the entrance ways looking at the doors, perhaps, but pointed at an exterior wall of the building? What for?

Also, this was 2001, not 2020, and cameras were not as prevalent back then.

I noticed you didn't address the eyewitness reports.
 

asterisktom

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And why would there be security cameras pointed at the exterior walls of the Pentagon? Cameras placed at the entrance ways looking at the doors, perhaps, but pointed at an exterior wall of the building? What for?

Also, this was 2001, not 2020, and cameras were not as prevalent back then.

I noticed you didn't address the eyewitness reports.

OK. I am done here. I will let readers decide which case is more convincing.
 

InTheLight

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OK. I am done here. I will let readers decide which case is more convincing.
No kidding. Scores of eyewitness seeing a plane fly into the Pentagon vs. a complaint that no cameras were pointed at an exterior wall of the Pentagon.

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asterisktom

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No kidding. Scores of eyewitness seeing a plane fly into the Pentagon vs. a complaint that no cameras were pointed at an exterior wall of the Pentagon.

To be exact, what I am saying is that that plane, Flight 77, did not hit that wall - or any other. There was indeed a plane that hit the Pentagon, and that is, most likely, where the eyewitnesses came in. The lack of corroborating evidence is in the official narrative. The fact is that there were explosions within the Pentagon eight minutes before the supposed impact of Flight 77.
 

asterisktom

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To be exact, what I am saying is that that plane, Flight 77, did not hit that wall - or any other. There was indeed a plane that hit the Pentagon, and that is, most likely, where the eyewitnesses came in. The lack of corroborating evidence is in the official narrative. The fact is that there were explosions within the Pentagon eight minutes before the supposed impact of Flight 77.

There were explosions in the Pentagon eight minutes before the official scenario event. There are plenty of witnesses to this. Those working inside the building were quoted on this point.

I hesitated to share this link because I do not agree with some of the later parts of it, but there is much useful information here: timelines, quotes from military insiders, photos, etc.

http://www.sftesla.org/sfts_pdfs/2014t_pfds/SF_Tesla_Society_March_9_2014_Presentation_PPT.pdf
 

asterisktom

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To be exact, what I am saying is that that plane, Flight 77, did not hit that wall - or any other. There was indeed a plane that hit the Pentagon, and that is, most likely, where the eyewitnesses came in.

I forgot to add that this plane was recorded by several witnesses as having impacted the Pentagon over five minutes before the official scenario crash happened. Flight 77 would have still been miles away.

There is lots of interesting details in that pdf I shared. You might want to do a search for FDR (Flight Data Recorder, not the other FDR) in that document. Very interesting.
 
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