#NEVERTRUMP/#THIRD-PARTY-SUICIDE-MISSION Recruitment

[Benjamin]

Please help generate hysteria from the upright pseudo-intellectual-right-wingers who have made a living in Washington being “brilliant” while they alienated the entire American people. They now they actually NEED YOU and WANT YOU to join with them more than ever!

The degree with which these establishment “right-wingers” are being repudiated is intolerable to them and they really don’t know what else to do. Unfortunately for them, the country has looked at their lack of achievement and effectiveness and has said, NO! With "their" party being taken away from them there is nothing else left for them to do, but, well, commit party suicide…

Thus, psychological hysteria having set in nothing else matters, not having to continue working under Democratic rule through Hillary for next 8 years, not even the upcoming SCOTUS selection which could affect our country for decades to come, as long as they are able keep their upright positions of authority. Regardless of their failures this movement is needed to maintain their self-respect.

Please help them by being the voice that even suicide is better than allowing the voices that would put an end to their establishment incompetence and allow Trump to succeed doing this to them by joining the new #NT/T-P-S-M movement today.

Thank you.

 

[InTheLight]

Trump likes to brag about winning more than 10 million votes. He leaves out the fact that almost 16 million people voted for someone other than Trump. Of the 27 contests Trump won before he became the presumptive nominee, he only received majorities in seven of them. He also lost in 13 contests, bringing the number of states in which he did not win a majority to 33.

We can compare 28 of these 33 with the Democratic nominating contests in those states (excluding Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, and Iowa for having differing systems between Democrats and Republicans, and Kentucky, which hasn’t had its Democrat primary yet). We find that the total number of voters not voting for Trump (Not Trump) in the Republican primary was greater than the total of voters for Clinton in the Democratic primary in 24 contests.


http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/16/these-numbers-say-a-third-party-can-win-the-presidency/

 

[Salty]

Trump likes to brag about winning more than 10 million votes. He leaves out the fact that almost 16 million people voted for someone other than Trump.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/16/these-numbers-say-a-third-party-can-win-the-presidency/

and how many people have voted for someone other than Cruz?

 

[blessedwife318]

I find it Ironic that before Trump was the presumptive nominee Trump supporter said they wanted to destroy the GOP and the establishment. Now they are accusing those of us in the #NEVERTRUMP movement of destroying the GOP. No that it was the Trump supporters wanted and they will have to live with that destruction. I will say in one way they have done us a favor and revealed the true conservatives from the frauds. So enjoy the establishment candidate Trump and the destruction of the GOP, since that was clearly what they wanted.

 

[InTheLight]

and how many people have voted for someone other than Cruz?

Doesn't matter. More Republicans voted for guys Not Named Trump than voted for Trump.

 

[Benjamin]

and how many people have voted for someone other than Cruz?

Exactly! The process started off with 17 candidates yet some act as if it should be expected that one candidate should have have maintained over 50% all along. OH! The hysteria!

...Sorry, but "rules are rules" and as said about convention process "these have been the rules for a long time". Trump won the nomination...live with it ...or...

But, thank you to the supporters of #NT/T-P-S-M for their continued efforts.

 

[InTheLight]

Exactly! The process started off with 17 candidates yet some act as if it should be expected that one candidate should have have maintained over 50% all along. OH! The hysteria!

...Sorry, but "rules are rules" and as said about convention process "these have been the rules for a long time". Trump won the nomination...live with it ...or...

But, thank you to the supporters of #NT/T-P-S-M for their continued efforts.

Go back and look at the primary results. Even when there was only Trump, Cruz, and Kasich in the race, with Kasich in single digits, Trump struggled to win majorities of Republican voters. It wasn't until he got into his "home" territory of New York, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Connecticut, did Trump win majorities.

 

[Salty]

Go back and look at the primary results. Even when there was only Trump, Cruz, and Kasich in the race, with Kasich in single digits, Trump struggled to win majorities of Republican voters. It wasn't until he got into his "home" territory of New York, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Connecticut, did Trump win majorities.

Refresh my memory - what states only had the Big Three actively campaigning?

 

[InTheLight]

Refresh my memory - what states only had the Big Three actively campaigning?

In the weeks after Rubio dropped out, with just Cruz, Kasich and Trump in the race Trump won one state, Arizona.

Arizona Trump won with 47%
Utah Cruz won with 69%
North Dakota Cruz won delegates via convention
Wisconsin Cruz won with 48%
Colorado Cruz won delegates via convention
Wyoming Cruz won delegates via convention

After these states the contests moved to the NE USA, Trump's home turf, where he did win with over 50% of the vote.

Connecticut
Delaware
Maryland
New York
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island

 

[preachinjesus]

I'll be proudly voting 3rd party this November for the Presidential election.

 

[Benjamin]

I'll be proudly voting 3rd party this November for the Presidential election.

Atta-boy!

I’m sure your commitment to vote for the third party, even though no viable alternative exist yet

, will be greatly appreciated by the GOP establishment who prefer party suicide as long as they keep their jobs.

Even if means under Hillary’s progressive agenda.

Now if only more so-called Republicans would just simply fall in the #NeverTrump line

for voting for a third party, any old third party will do, this mission toward to preserve the establishment elitists through GOP Party Suicide might be on to something yet!

Thank you for your meaningful contribution to help determine the upcoming election results and being against any real GOP party change!

 

[stevewm1963]

Face it, the GOP is done! They're nothing but a bunch of liberals calling themselves republicans! We have two candidates(Trump/Hillary) representing the two parties and both are liberals fighting for the chance to finish off this nation! I refuse to give either of them my vote because both are evil to the core!

 

[Rolfe]

Now if only more so-called Republicans would just simply fall in the #NeverTrump line

for voting for a third party, any old third party will do, this mission toward to preserve the establishment elitists through GOP Party Suicide might be on to something yet!

Seems like you jumped on the Trump Train only because Ben Carson did, rather than adhere to Conservative principles.

The Republican Party has no chance, because of voters like the Trumpies who have decided that personality is preferred over principle and competency, of returning to a more Conservative agenda unless he loses. If he leads the party from the White House, he will be the Republican version of Obama.

 

[Luke2427]

Trump likes to brag about winning more than 10 million votes. He leaves out the fact that almost 16 million people voted for someone other than Trump. Of the 27 contests Trump won before he became the presumptive nominee, he only received majorities in seven of them. He also lost in 13 contests, bringing the number of states in which he did not win a majority to 33.

We can compare 28 of these 33 with the Democratic nominating contests in those states (excluding Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, and Iowa for having differing systems between Democrats and Republicans, and Kentucky, which hasn’t had its Democrat primary yet). We find that the total number of voters not voting for Trump (Not Trump) in the Republican primary was greater than the total of voters for Clinton in the Democratic primary in 24 contests.


http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/16/these-numbers-say-a-third-party-can-win-the-presidency/

When he has to split the vote totals with numerous other people, it would be ridiculous to assert that he should have the majority.

It is also non sequitur to imply that this data means that every one who voted for one of the numerous other Republican candidates will not vote for Trump, or are even vehemently opposed to Trump.

 

[InTheLight]

When he has to split the vote totals with numerous other people, it would be ridiculous to assert that he should have the majority.

If you would bother to look at the voting data you would see that when there were 17 Republican candidates in the field, Trump was getting 30% - 35% of the vote. As these candidates dropped out over time, that percentage did not budge for Trump. He was stuck at about 33%. Only when there were only three or four left in the race did Trump's numbers go up into the upper 30% area.

He received only 41% of all Republican votes in all primaries, and that number was heavily skewed in his favor by New York and other surrounding states in the late April primaries.

It is also non sequitur to imply that this data means that every one who voted for one of the numerous other Republican candidates will not vote for Trump, or are even vehemently opposed to Trump.

Well, obviously not EVERY ONE of those voters wouldn't vote for Trump (nice strawman, BTW), but a significant number have said they would not vote for Trump. You need to look at the exit polls from the primaries.

 

[Don]

Atta-boy!

I’m sure your commitment to vote for the third party, even though no viable alternative exist yet

, will be greatly appreciated by the GOP establishment who prefer party suicide as long as they keep their jobs.

Even if means under Hillary’s progressive agenda.

Now if only more so-called Republicans would just simply fall in the #NeverTrump line

for voting for a third party, any old third party will do, this mission toward to preserve the establishment elitists through GOP Party Suicide might be on to something yet!

Thank you for your meaningful contribution to help determine the upcoming election results and being against any real GOP party change!

So it's more important to vote for Trump--who isn't really all that different from Clinton--than it is to vote for who you, the individual, believes would actually be the best candidate?

Or are you saying it's more important to ensure Clinton doesn't get elected, so you'll vote for whoever has the best chance of that, despite the fact that they're really not that different from Clinton?

I believe I may have said in previous elections, to quote "The Who": Meet the New Boss; same as the Old Boss....

 

[Luke2427]

If you would bother to look at the voting data

Why start your response that way? With that tone? What is the impetus behind that?

would see that when there were 17 Republican candidates in the field, Trump was getting 30% - 35% of the vote. As these candidates dropped out over time, that percentage did not budge for Trump. He was stuck at about 33%. Only when there were only three or four left in the race did Trump's numbers go up into the upper 30% area.
He received only 41% of all Republican votes in all primaries, and that number was heavily skewed in his favor by New York and other surrounding states in the late April primaries.

So, it is remarkable that he was getting 35% of the vote with 17 candidates running.

It is also remarkable that he was getting 41% of the vote with two other candidates running.

, obviously not EVERY ONE of those voters wouldn't vote for Trump (nice strawman, BTW), but a significant number have said they would not vote for Trump. You need to look at the exit polls from the primaries

I have. If I recall there was a significant percentage of those who did not vote for Trump because they preferred somebody like Rand Paul (my candidate of choice) who said they's still ultimately support the Republican nominee.

The point still stands. 41% of the vote against numerous candidates is great.

Trump has received more votes than any other candidate in Republican Primary history.

Anything else is just white noise.

 

[InTheLight]

So, it is remarkable that he was getting 35% of the vote with 17 candidates running.

What is remarkable is that as candidates dropped out after almost every primary election, Trump's percentage of voters did not increase. This shows that Trump is not the 2nd or even the 3rd choice of voters.

Trump has received more votes than any other candidate in Republican Primary history.

Anything else is just white noise.

Well, yes, there are more voters now than at any time in American history. You need to look at the percentages.

Trump failed with 59% of the Republican primary voters. On a percentage basis Trump received less Republican primary votes than Romney, McCain, Bush, Dole, Bush Sr., Reagan, Ford and Reagan (in 1976). Basically, since I've been able to vote every other Republican candidate that eventually won the nomination has garnered a greater percentage of Republican primary voters than Trump.

 

[Luke2427]

What is remarkable is that as candidates dropped out after almost every primary election, Trump's percentage of voters did not increase. This shows that Trump is not the 2nd or even the 3rd choice of voters.



Well, yes, there are more voters now than at any time in American history. You need to look at the percentages.

Trump failed with 59% of the Republican primary voters. On a percentage basis Trump received less Republican primary votes than Romney, McCain, Bush, Dole, Bush Sr., Reagan, Ford and Reagan (in 1976). Basically, since I've been able to vote every other Republican candidate that eventually won the nomination has garnered a greater percentage of Republican primary voters than Trump.

I don't think so.

 

[InTheLight]

I don't think so.

You don't think so....You don't think facts are true? Please elaborate.