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[InTheLight]

Any one catch the 1893 reference to a modern day directional device in Crimson Horror last night? I didn't at first, but when I re-watched it a little while ago, I did. Pretty funny.

Yep, got it.

Also, there was a tip of that hat to a 5th Doctor companion.

The reference to taking an Aussie (Tegan) to the airport. Got it.

How an old woman could conceive of and
build a rocket--didn't get that. How same rocket did not torch the people milling around the launchpad--didn't get that.

Not a bad episode. There have certainly been worse.

One of the best this season. Thought the old lady did a fabulous acting job and was blown away when I found out she was Diana Rigg.

 

[Don]

http://io9.com/doctor-who-season-finale-shows-up-in-the-mail-a-few-day-503812028

 

[InTheLight]

http://io9.com/doctor-who-season-finale-shows-up-in-the-mail-a-few-day-503812028

Wow. Epic screw-up by BBC America.

 

[InTheLight]

Somebody has posted Episode 2 of the Underwater Menace on YouTube. This episode was one of the "lost episodes" until it was recovered on December 11, 2011. I think it's scheduled to be released on DVD later this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ehQd5td-g (first half)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAyvZFwVOpM (second half)

 

[Don]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HeDied4U
Any one catch the 1893 reference to a modern day directional device in Crimson Horror last night? I didn't at first, but when I re-watched it a little while ago, I did. Pretty funny.

Yep, got it.


Quote:
Also, there was a tip of that hat to a 5th Doctor companion.
The reference to taking an Aussie (Tegan) to the airport. Got it.

How an old woman could conceive of and
build a rocket--didn't get that. How same rocket did not torch the people milling around the launchpad--didn't get that.Quote:
Not a bad episode. There have certainly been worse.


One of the best this season. Thought the old lady did a fabulous acting job and was blown away when I found out she was Diana Rigg.

Okay, I have to admit; I didn't catch the two references.

I don't recall it actually being explained, but I assumed she had advanced knowledge because of her "shared knowledge" with "Mr. Sweet"....


Latest episode ("Nightmare in Silver"?) - meh. Their first encounter with the resurrected Cyberman, and they realize it moves faster than they can see -- and they subsequently go out by themselves, to be picked off one-by-one???

That was the only part I disliked.

 

[InTheLight]

Latest episode ("Nightmare in Silver"?) - meh. Their first encounter with the resurrected Cyberman, and they realize it moves faster than they can see -- and they subsequently go out by themselves, to be picked off one-by-one???

That was the only part I disliked.

Yes, I had the same thoughts. Why show them having the ability of super speed and then have them clanking around the rest of the episode?

 

[Matt Black]

Yep, got it.




How an old woman could conceive of and
build a rocket--didn't get that.

Presumably Mr Sweet told her

One of the best this season. Thought the old lady did a fabulous acting job and was blown away when I found out she was Diana Rigg.

And her blind daughter was played by Dame Diana's daughter IRL.

 

[InTheLight]

Presumably Mr Sweet told her

Yeah.....I didn't get the sense that the slug parasite was a brainiac. And even if it were so, it begs the question as to how he would know how to do it.

 

[Don]

The Name of the Doctor -- talk about an ending that left me confused....

 

[HeDied4U]

The Name of the Doctor -- talk about an ending that left me confused....

Same here.

I thought it was a pretty good episode, except for the last five minutes or so. I was left sitting on my couch thinking, "What the wha????"

 

[InTheLight]

Same here.

I thought it was a pretty good episode, except for the last five minutes or so. I was left sitting on my couch thinking, "What the wha????"

Ditto.

I'm thinking the John Hurt doctor is an evil incarnation of the Doctor we don't know about. He would be the one that destroyed Gallifrey in the Time War. Since he was a destroyer and not a savior of planets/people he doesn't get to use the name "Doctor". Matt Smith's character had a line alluding to this, "he was me but he wasn't a Doctor" (or something similar, can't remember exact quote.)

This would mean Smith is Doctor #12, not #11. However, I always figured McGann's doctor carried out the Time War, but I guess it's never been explicitly stated as such. Another possibility is that the John Hurt character is an aged McGann, though that seems unlikely.

I loved, loved the opening sequence on Gallifrey.

 

[Don]

Buzz on the Net seems to be that Hurt is the 8th doctor, for the reasons you identified.

But the emphasis on the 50th anniversary show seems to be around Tennant and Smith vs. Hurt....

 

[InTheLight]

Buzz on the Net seems to be that Hurt is the 8th doctor, for the reasons you identified.

Do they think Hurt is an older McGann? I'd have a tough time buying into that since it would be way out of character for McGann's portrayal of the Doctor. (He made a lot of audios and was in tons of books during the TV show's hiatus.)

Maybe Hurt's doctor is number 8.5?

But the emphasis on the 50th anniversary show seems to be around Tennant and Smith vs. Hurt....

Meh. I hope not.

 

[ccrobinson]

The Doctor: "The name I chose is the Doctor. The name you choose, it's like a promise that you make. He's the one who broke the promise."

Unknown Doctor: "What I did, I did without choice."

Doctor: "I know."

UD: "In the name of peace and sanity."

Doctor: "But not in the name of the Doctor."


I have to agree that the John Hurt Doctor has to be the incarnation that ended the Time War. What this does, though, is screwup the history of NuWho, because, while I don't think the Doctor himself has ever said he was the 9th, 10th or 11th Doctor, that's what we've been told outside the show.

I guess that if 11 says the John Hurt Doctor isn't really the Doctor because of what he did to end the Time War, then then saying that 11 is still 11 is true, "from a certain point of view."

 

[Matt Black]

The opening scene with dear old Billy was something special. I'm not sure though how it (as continued later in the episode) squares with the TARDIS' assertion in The Doctor's Wife that she stole the Doctor rather than the other way round.

Is John Hurt's incarnation the Valeyard, perchance?

 

[ccrobinson]

The opening scene with dear old Billy was something special.

That was excellent.

I'm not sure though how it (as continued later in the episode) squares with the TARDIS' assertion in The Doctor's Wife that she stole the Doctor rather than the other way round.

The TARDIS stole him away once he went into it, but he had to make the choice in the first place. Perhaps the TARDIS, if it doesn't like a particular Time Lord, won't work for them so easily, if at all. We've seen an example of the TARDIS simply not wanting to go where the Doctor wants her to and maybe that applies in this case.

Is John Hurt's incarnation the Valeyard, perchance?

I've thought about that, too. I'm inclined to say it isn't, but I don't have a good reason for saying so. It very well could be.

 

[Don]

Well...now that I've read up on the Valeyard (didn't like the 6th doctor, so didn't watch)...John Hurt being the Valeyard makes more sense to me.

There's a lot of talk about John Hurt wearing clothing reminiscent of McGann and Eccleston; but that big fuzzy coat reminds me of an earlier version of the Doctor ... so it's not a stretch for me to think "amalgamation of Doctors somewhere between the 12th and 13th" ....

I guess we'll see this November.

 

[JPPT1974]

The Tardis is much bigger on the inside. But the outside feeling gives you and tricks you that it is much more smaller.

 

[ccrobinson]

You may not know this, but the real police boxes were designed to hold just 1 person. They were designed so that a criminal could be locked into it while the average citizen could call the cops from the phone on the outside. At least, this is what I've read over the years. It's why everybody thinks the Doctor is crazy when he talks about both of them going into the police box.

Trivia question. What does the Doctor call the phenomenon of the TARDIS being bigger on the inside? Who does he explain this to and what's the episode where it took place?

 

[Matt Black]

Dimensional transcendence. I can't remember the exact episode but it was involving Leela and he used two boxes to illustrate it. I think either Robots of Death or Horror of Fang Rock.