Nope, it was in Talons of Weng Chiang. I just watched eps. 1 - 3 about a week ago.
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Nope, it was in Talons of Weng Chiang. I just watched eps. 1 - 3 about a week ago.
You're quite right - it was.
ccrobinson
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The Doctor calls it Transdimensional Engineering, but Dimensional Transcendance is another way of saying the same thing, so correct.
Leela is correct as well.
The episode, however, was Robots of Death Episode 1, which is one of my favorite Tom Baker stories.
Fast forward to 3:32.
Leela is correct as well.
The episode, however, was Robots of Death Episode 1, which is one of my favorite Tom Baker stories.
Fast forward to 3:32.
ccrobinson
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Here are some easy ones.
Why does the 5th Doctor wear a stalk of celery on his coat?
Who wears a black and white mask and becomes obsessed with Perpugilliam Brown?
Why does the 5th Doctor wear a stalk of celery on his coat?
Who wears a black and white mask and becomes obsessed with Perpugilliam Brown?
Aaarghh! You're right. I was watching the BBCA 50th anniversary special on Tom Baker and they included that scene in a bit about Leela. This is right after I had watched Talons. I got the two episodes confused.
IIRC, the celery acts as a detector (by changing color) for either a poisonous gas or some sort of a virus.
Can't remember the guy's name but the villain in Caves of Androzanni. Great episode.
ccrobinson
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The 5th Doctor is allergic to some gases in the Praxis region and the celery changes color to alert him to those gases. When asked what he does then, the Doctor says, "I eat the celery. At the very least, it's good for my teeth." So, you're right on that one.
Sharez Jek is the madman in The Caves of Androzani who becomes obsessed with Peri. It's ironic that the 5th Doctor's best story is his last one. I'll give the gold star, just because you knew it was from Caves of Androzani, and obviously didn't look it up since you didn't mention Jek's name.
Did you know this post has taken me about an hour to write? I shouldn't get started reading Doctor Who stuff, because it takes me an effort to stop. I've read a bunch of stuff about the theories about John Hurt's Doctor, and I think the theory I agree with is the one that's been espoused here, that he's the incarnation between the 8th and 9th and that he's the one who ended the Time War. I can get onboard with a Doctor 8.5.
If you've read The 10 Doctors, Rich Morris' brilliant comic, you know about a Doctor 2.5, between the 2nd and 3rd, based solely on a fan based film (go search on Youtube for Doctor Who Devious). I kindof like and I can get on board with Doctor 2.5, mostly because I buy totally into a season 6B theory, the theory behind how the 2nd Doctor knows certain things that he shouldn't.
Which brings me to some annoyance I have with Jon Pertwee. In the 5 Doctors, there were 2 lines that he spoke that he wanted to have because he thought they would be funny for him to say, but really make no sense at all. For example, when Sarah Jane says something about him not looking like he used to, and he finishes her thought that he doesn't have "teeth and curls". He shouldn't know that! Gah! JNT, who presided over what became a terrible time for Doctor Who, should have stepped in and said no to that.
The 3rd Doctor also has another line in The 5 Doctors that annoys me everytime I hear it, but I can't remember it right now. I know a lot of people like the 3rd Doctor the best, but I do not. He just didn't appeal to me, but, I am going through all the 3rd Doctor stories, so maybe I'll come out on the other side liking him more. Even if I don't, I appreciate that era of Doctor Who, because, without Jon Pertwee, there is no Tom Baker.
Enough rambling. Here's another trivia question.
In The Mind Robber, the Doctor meets a man known as The Master. True or false, this is an incarnation of The Master prior to Terror of the Autons.
Sharez Jek is the madman in The Caves of Androzani who becomes obsessed with Peri. It's ironic that the 5th Doctor's best story is his last one. I'll give the gold star, just because you knew it was from Caves of Androzani, and obviously didn't look it up since you didn't mention Jek's name.
Did you know this post has taken me about an hour to write? I shouldn't get started reading Doctor Who stuff, because it takes me an effort to stop. I've read a bunch of stuff about the theories about John Hurt's Doctor, and I think the theory I agree with is the one that's been espoused here, that he's the incarnation between the 8th and 9th and that he's the one who ended the Time War. I can get onboard with a Doctor 8.5.
If you've read The 10 Doctors, Rich Morris' brilliant comic, you know about a Doctor 2.5, between the 2nd and 3rd, based solely on a fan based film (go search on Youtube for Doctor Who Devious). I kindof like and I can get on board with Doctor 2.5, mostly because I buy totally into a season 6B theory, the theory behind how the 2nd Doctor knows certain things that he shouldn't.
Which brings me to some annoyance I have with Jon Pertwee. In the 5 Doctors, there were 2 lines that he spoke that he wanted to have because he thought they would be funny for him to say, but really make no sense at all. For example, when Sarah Jane says something about him not looking like he used to, and he finishes her thought that he doesn't have "teeth and curls". He shouldn't know that! Gah! JNT, who presided over what became a terrible time for Doctor Who, should have stepped in and said no to that.
The 3rd Doctor also has another line in The 5 Doctors that annoys me everytime I hear it, but I can't remember it right now. I know a lot of people like the 3rd Doctor the best, but I do not. He just didn't appeal to me, but, I am going through all the 3rd Doctor stories, so maybe I'll come out on the other side liking him more. Even if I don't, I appreciate that era of Doctor Who, because, without Jon Pertwee, there is no Tom Baker.
Enough rambling. Here's another trivia question.
In The Mind Robber, the Doctor meets a man known as The Master. True or false, this is an incarnation of The Master prior to Terror of the Autons.
Seems like a reasonable theory. I wonder if they cooked up Doc 8.5 because Eccleston wasn't going to appear in the 50th anniversary show. Also, I seem to recall Eccleston's doctor saying that he executed the Time War, but can't recall the episode.
Years ago I heard of Season 6B but I can't remember the premise. Was it that the Time Lords sequestered him somewhere?
I remember the line but I can't remember it bothering me. Now it does. Gee, thanks!
Pertwee's first season was really good. I need to see Ambassadors of Death again. I think there is a colorized version available.
No, it's not an incarnation of the Master. However, that reminds me of the theory many fans held to that the General in War Games was the Master.
ccrobinson
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The line was "I made it happen!", but I don't remember when he said it. It sounds like something he would have said to the Emperor, but he could have said it in Dalek, too. It's interesting that the Doctor, though distancing himself from Doctor 8.5, still takes responsibility for it.
Here's an excellent explanation of it. I just found this site myself, which is perfect for me to find, because my MIL is here, and I will now literally spend hours reading this site. :thumbs:
:laugh:
It's always bothered me. I saw The 5 Doctors before I ever saw a Pertwee story. It's possible that those lines started me down road of negative feelings for his Doctor.
I'm fully prepared to change my opinion of Pertwee. He probably won't become my favorite, but I'm sure I'll like him more after going through his stories. I've seen Inferno once, but it's my favorite 3rd Doctor story, just because I like the parallel universe stuff. I am looking forward to all the battles with the Master.
Correct. I had never seen this story until a couple of weeks ago and I thought that, just maybe, that guy was an early incarnation, because that would have been pretty cool, but, no.
My first Doctor Who story was The Green Death, so I've always liked Pertwee.
Are you familiar with Rifftrax? It's the guys from Mystery Science Theater 3000 continuing on their satirical ways. They have short subjects, entire movies, and also sell their commentaries that you sync up with blockbuster movies that you already own on DVD (or rent.) Anyway, their latest release is Doctor Who and the Daleks, with Peter Cushing. I bought it and will watch it tonight. Looks promising.
http://www.rifftrax.com
Are you familiar with Rifftrax? It's the guys from Mystery Science Theater 3000 continuing on their satirical ways. They have short subjects, entire movies, and also sell their commentaries that you sync up with blockbuster movies that you already own on DVD (or rent.) Anyway, their latest release is Doctor Who and the Daleks, with Peter Cushing. I bought it and will watch it tonight. Looks promising.
http://www.rifftrax.com
ccrobinson
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Never heard of them before. Have to take a look.
I finished Pertwee's Season 1 with Inferno and I have to wonder why I liked it in the first place (to be fair, I think I was 16 when I saw it). It's not all that bad, but a couple of things stuck out to me. It's a 7 part episode and the Doctor doesn't call drilling into the earth's crust a dangerous, terrible idea until episode 5 when he warns then that releasing that energy would make the atomic bomb a strong breeze by comparison. This is in direct contradiction with what he said in episode 1, where he thought it was a great idea to do it.
I suppose you could argue that he didn't change his mind until he saw the green ooze turn people into zombies, or, to be fair, wildly hairy monsters with teeth that looked suspiciously like those dracula teeth we used to have when we were kids. But, I think I discovered what I dislike about the 3rd Doctor. He's not very Time Lordy, at least in the first season. I guess that's part of the point of exile, that he's been, for lack of a better term, de-fanged, and I'm not a big fan of it.
I finished Pertwee's Season 1 with Inferno and I have to wonder why I liked it in the first place (to be fair, I think I was 16 when I saw it). It's not all that bad, but a couple of things stuck out to me. It's a 7 part episode and the Doctor doesn't call drilling into the earth's crust a dangerous, terrible idea until episode 5 when he warns then that releasing that energy would make the atomic bomb a strong breeze by comparison. This is in direct contradiction with what he said in episode 1, where he thought it was a great idea to do it.
I suppose you could argue that he didn't change his mind until he saw the green ooze turn people into zombies, or, to be fair, wildly hairy monsters with teeth that looked suspiciously like those dracula teeth we used to have when we were kids. But, I think I discovered what I dislike about the 3rd Doctor. He's not very Time Lordy, at least in the first season. I guess that's part of the point of exile, that he's been, for lack of a better term, de-fanged, and I'm not a big fan of it.
That's BBC budget cuts - sorry, Time Lord justice - for you!
ccrobinson
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I read something recently where Matt Smith was saying how hard it is to do Doctor Who and I wondered whether he was thinking about moving on and lo and behold, he is.
Some of you reading this absolutely loved Matt Smith. I'm one of those who did and my wife started watching the show because of him. Some of you reading this never really warmed up to him and, honestly, he had big shoes to fill because David Tennant was fantastic. I can find something to like about all of them, even the 6th.
Now that it's time for a new guy, I just hope they don't screw it up.
Some of you reading this absolutely loved Matt Smith. I'm one of those who did and my wife started watching the show because of him. Some of you reading this never really warmed up to him and, honestly, he had big shoes to fill because David Tennant was fantastic. I can find something to like about all of them, even the 6th.
Now that it's time for a new guy, I just hope they don't screw it up.
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ccrobinson
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I love Sarah Jane Smith. I'd forgotten how awesome she was until I'd gotten to The Time Warrior.
Here's a smattering of great Sarah Jane lines.
Ark in Space
The Doctor: Absorbed? We shall absorb the humans? Endoparasitism?
Sarah Jane Smith: [to Vira] He talks to himself sometimes because he's the only one who understands what he's talking about.
Ark in Space
Harry Sullivan: She's coming round. Steady, steady on, old girl, steady on.
Sarah Jane Smith: [dazed] Harry?
Harry Sullivan: Yes, I'm here, I'm here.
Sarah Jane Smith: Call me old girl again... and I'll spit in your eye.
Brain of Morbius
Voice of Morbius: When it is learnt that I, Morbius, have returned from the grave, my followers will rise in their millions.
The Doctor: You really can't go on calling yourself Morbius. There's very little of Morbius left. Why don't you think of another name? Potpourri would be appropriate.
Sarah Jane Smith: How about Chop Suey?
Masque of Mandragora
The Doctor: You humans have got such limited, little minds. I don't know why I like you so much.
Sarah: Because you have such good taste.
Here's a smattering of great Sarah Jane lines.
Ark in Space
The Doctor: Absorbed? We shall absorb the humans? Endoparasitism?
Sarah Jane Smith: [to Vira] He talks to himself sometimes because he's the only one who understands what he's talking about.
Ark in Space
Harry Sullivan: She's coming round. Steady, steady on, old girl, steady on.
Sarah Jane Smith: [dazed] Harry?
Harry Sullivan: Yes, I'm here, I'm here.
Sarah Jane Smith: Call me old girl again... and I'll spit in your eye.
Brain of Morbius
Voice of Morbius: When it is learnt that I, Morbius, have returned from the grave, my followers will rise in their millions.
The Doctor: You really can't go on calling yourself Morbius. There's very little of Morbius left. Why don't you think of another name? Potpourri would be appropriate.
Sarah Jane Smith: How about Chop Suey?
Masque of Mandragora
The Doctor: You humans have got such limited, little minds. I don't know why I like you so much.
Sarah: Because you have such good taste.
ccrobinson
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Another great line from Sarah Jane.
The Hand of Fear
When they transfer the hand into the shielded container, Sarah says, "Careful, it's not as armless as it looks."
The Hand of Fear
When they transfer the hand into the shielded container, Sarah says, "Careful, it's not as armless as it looks."
Sarah Jane was my favorite companion in the whole series. Have you seen the Sarah Jane Adventures? It's written with a teenage audience in mind but it's still entertaining. My kids loved it.
ccrobinson
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I haven't watched it, but my wife did and she liked it. She's never watched classic Doctor Who though, and doesn't know of the history of Sarah Jane. She liked the show.
ccrobinson
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My youngest boys, both of whom love Doctor Who, wanted to watch the 6th Doctor, so we've watched The Twin Dilemma, Attack of the Cybermen and Vengeance on Varos. I have to say, I can't figure out why people didn't like the 6th Doctor. It's true The Twin Dilemma wasn't a good story, but I don't think that was Colin Baker's fault.
Attack of the Cybermen was pretty good and Vengeance on Varos was a bit weak, but no weaker than any of the 4th or 5th Doctor's weak stories. In 1984-86, we didn't get the newest Doctor Who episodes, so I have no idea how he was received at the time, other than what I've read now. Does anybody know why he was so disliked? Through 3 stories, my kids and I all like him.
I'm not a fan, however, of Nicola Bryant as Perpugilliam Brown. She just wasn't a good choice for Peri.
Attack of the Cybermen was pretty good and Vengeance on Varos was a bit weak, but no weaker than any of the 4th or 5th Doctor's weak stories. In 1984-86, we didn't get the newest Doctor Who episodes, so I have no idea how he was received at the time, other than what I've read now. Does anybody know why he was so disliked? Through 3 stories, my kids and I all like him.
I'm not a fan, however, of Nicola Bryant as Perpugilliam Brown. She just wasn't a good choice for Peri.
I thought Colin Baker's doctor was good, but not great. He was a bit too know-it-all and condescending, even for the Doctor. His era lacked that standout, great story. Instead there were lots of OK stories and some real clunkers (Twin Dilemma, Timelash.) I liked Peri in the Davison stories but she became a generic companion as the sixth Doctor's era moved along. I couldn't stand Mel. I didn't like the season long story format for S23, Trial of a Timelord. My two fave Colin stories are Revelation of the Daleks and Vengeance on Varos.
Once they handed the role to Sylvester McCoy I was appalled that they ruined my favorite TV show. That era was embarrassing.
Once they handed the role to Sylvester McCoy I was appalled that they ruined my favorite TV show. That era was embarrassing.