New Era SBC President: a Mix of Reformed Baptist, Charismaticism

[Jerome]

Generational leadership shift set for today.

‘Reformed Baptist Plus’ is J.D. Greear’s orientation, according to this Sojourn Network interview with him posted late last year.

Mike Cosper Interviews JD Greear

Greear: “You kind of start with the reformed Baptist base and then learn from these other sources”

 

[Jerome]

NC Megachurch Pastor J.D. Greear

"Greear noted that his denomination – the Southern Baptist Convention – has in many ways restricted speaking in tongues and believes 'they are wrong and they are in sin for doing that.'"

"Greear described his church ['The Summit'] as 'charismatics with a seatbelt'"

 

[Yeshua1]

Generational leadership shift set for today.

‘Reformed Baptist Plus’ is J.D. Greear’s orientation, according to this Sojourn Network interview with him posted late last year.

Mike Cosper Interviews JD Greear

Greear: “You kind of start with the reformed Baptist base and then learn from these other sources”

Calvinism+ charasmatic Chaos equals?

 

[Steven Yeadon]

Calvinism+ charasmatic Chaos equals?

John Piper? Still a bad sign of things to come.

 

[Steven Yeadon]

Reading pastor Greear's blog, I must say, I am impressed.

Surprisingly, his last few blog entries deal with subjects the Spirit has led my heart on recently as well.

The only big thing I wish I could communicate to him is the need for holiness in southern baptist churches. His emphasis on missions and evangelism is wonderful. Yet, given his recent blog post on the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, I wonder if he realizes that his call for generosity to poor Christians, among other issues he writes on, is part of a broader issue of holiness in deeds and relationships.

He has been quoted as saying that churches that invest in missions will be remembered, that is true. But, it also seems to me that, given Revelation 2-3, the churches that invest in holiness are those that will not only be remembered, but will survive for generations to come.

To quote President and CEO Greear:

We would not be the first people God had set aside. The Jews of Jesus’ day assumed God would never set them aside. God needed them! But Jesus warned them, “The kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruit” (Matthew 21:43). He gives the same warning to us: The grace of God is overwhelming and overflowing, but we must never take it for granted.

God is stirring in the SBC. He has exposed a startling amount of sin in our midst. He has shaken many of our foundations. And I actually think that’s good news, because whom the Lord loves, he chastens. He is inviting us, I believe, into an era of unprecedented effectiveness for the Great Commission, if we repent.

I pray he has the wisdom and understanding that comes from the Spirit to know the Father's will (Ephesians 1:17, Colossians 1:9). I hope more people pray for this with me. I thank God our Father he knows the vital importance of missions and evangelism, especially after the "prayer walking" fad of yesteryear. I also pray he fully realizes and acts on the need for holiness among all churches, for the survival of those congregations for generations to come.

 

[church mouse guy]

From Greear’s book Breaking the Islam Code: “Believing wrong things about God and worshiping him incorrectly doesn’t mean one is worshipping a different God” (p.59).

Read more at J.D. Greear says Christians & Muslims Worship the Same God

This is utter nonsense on stilts. Because allah with the lower case means god with the lower case does not mean that Allah of Islam is God in any sense.

Can anyone recommend another denomination?

 

[TCassidy]

Does this guy really think that "Allah" is the Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, of Christianity?

 

[church mouse guy]

Does this guy really think that "Allah" is the Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, of Christianity?

Thank you! Next he will be saying that Mormons, JWs and Christian Scientists worship the same God that Christians do. I thought that preachers were supposed to be smarter than I am.

 

[church mouse guy]

Is it correct to say this about Greear?

2 Corinthians 11:4 (KJV) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

 

[Yeshua1]

From Greear’s book Breaking the Islam Code: “Believing wrong things about God and worshiping him incorrectly doesn’t mean one is worshipping a different God” (p.59).

Read more at J.D. Greear says Christians & Muslims Worship the Same God

This is utter nonsense on stilts. Because allah with the lower case means god with the lower case does not mean that Allah of Islam is God in any sense.

Can anyone recommend another denomination?

Any who would state that Allah of islam is Yahweh of the Bible would be someone that should never pastor a church, much less head up the SBC!

 

[Yeshua1]

Does this guy really think that "Allah" is the Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, of Christianity?

And that Muhmmed outranks Jesus Christ?

 

[Yeshua1]

Thank you! Next he will be saying that Mormons, JWs and Christian Scientists worship the same God that Christians do. I thought that preachers were supposed to be smarter than I am.

By your fruit you will know them, and this fruit of his is ripen garbage!

 

[Yeshua1]

Reading pastor Greear's blog, I must say, I am impressed.

Surprisingly, his last few blog entries deal with subjects the Spirit has led my heart on recently as well.

The only big thing I wish I could communicate to him is the need for holiness in southern baptist churches. His emphasis on missions and evangelism is wonderful. Yet, given his recent blog post on the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, I wonder if he realizes that his call for generosity to poor Christians, among other issues he writes on, is part of a broader issue of holiness in deeds and relationships.

He has been quoted as saying that churches that invest in missions will be remembered, that is true. But, it also seems to me that, given Revelation 2-3, the churches that invest in holiness are those that will not only be remembered, but will survive for generations to come.

To quote President and CEO Greear:



I pray he has the wisdom and understanding that comes from the Spirit to know the Father's will (Ephesians 1:17, Colossians 1:9). I hope more people pray for this with me. I thank God our Father he knows the vital importance of missions and evangelism, especially after the "prayer walking" fad of yesteryear. I also pray he fully realizes and acts on the need for holiness among all churches, for the survival of those congregations for generations to come.

See his views on Allah and Yahweh!

 

[Rob_BW]

And that Muhmmed outranks Jesus Christ?

Where did he say that?

 

[Wingman68]

Where did he say that?

In his book.

 

[Rob_BW]

In his book.

Ok, care to post a link or cite? I thought that I had read through all of the links posted so far, but let me know if I missed it.

 

[Wingman68]

J.D. Greear says Christians & Muslims Worship the Same God

 

[Rob_BW]

J.D. Greear says Christians & Muslims Worship the Same God

Ok, again, where in that link does Greear write that:

And that Muhmmed outranks Jesus Christ?

 

[Wingman68]

Ok, again, where in that link does Greear write that:

I missed that you were asking if he outranked. Just the fact that he calls them the same with different names is what I was referring to. Sorry.

 

[Steven Yeadon]

President and CEO Greear is totally wrong on the god of Islam. He seems to have some bad ideas, including his stance on tongues.

However, we must be careful as he is an elder. Also, we are told to gently rebuke a brother in the bible. Since I doubt anyone here holds him as apostate, that means consistent, respectful correction is needed.