New Gun Control Talking Point

[HankD]

I don't think anyone ever said it did.

A while back, you inexplicably (and falsely) claimed that I was anti-gun as well as anti-Bible. Are you still laboring under that delusion, thinking your non-sensical posts are somehow making a case for gun ownership? They do not. They make me think you are confused.

Yes you are confused about my confusion.

 

[HankD]

Uh, no. I think you need to stop reading things into my posts.

I will if you will.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Yes you are confused about my confusion.

Then you can answer the questions previously asked:

1) Who has made the claim that the Constitution has banned automatic weapons?

2) Who has claimed Russia should protect the Second Amendment?

If you can show me who made those claims, it will demonstrate that you were not confused. Otherwise, I think the reality is clear.

By the way, here are a couple of the Russian videos I was originally referring to -- of which you claimed, "Baloney - fake hysterical news."

Fully Automatic Glock Fun

Glock 17 Explosive Ammo!

 

[Wingman68]

 

[Squire Robertsson]

The NRA of 1934 didn't totally ban anything. It did mandate a rigorous licensing and expensive fee regime. Various and sundry states, however, have banned the private ownership of full auto capable firearms. As for the Russian full auto Glocks, they are in Russia, not the States. It looks like you've fallen for some Russian disinformatzia.

The National Firearms Act of 1934, banned automatic weapons in almost all instances. It also banned destructive devices, which includes bombs, explosive missiles, poison gas, etc.

 

[HankD]

Then you can answer the questions previously asked:

1) Who has made the claim that the Constitution has banned automatic weapons?

2) Who has claimed Russia should protect the Second Amendment?

If you can show me who made those claims, it will demonstrate that you were not confused. Otherwise, I think the reality is clear.

By the way, here are a couple of the Russian videos I was originally referring to -- of which you claimed, "Baloney - fake hysterical news."

Fully Automatic Glock Fun

Glock 17 Explosive Ammo!

You answered your own questions

 

[Baptist Believer]

The NRA of 1934 didn't totally ban anything.

I wasn't speaking in technicalities. For the ordinary citizen, automatic weapons are illegal. It is effectively a ban.

As for the Russian full auto Glocks, they are in Russia, not the States.

Which was EXACTLY the what I said:

"You can see things like that on YouTube, mostly coming out of Russia."

The videos I referred to were created in (aka, "coming out of") Russia.

It looks like you've fallen for some Russian disinformatzia.

No, I think several here have misunderstood what I wrote.

 

[Baptist Believer]

You answered your own questions

I suppose so. You have demonstrated that you were thoroughly confuse and now you won't admit you were wrong. That's not an admirable trait.

 

[HankD]

I suppose so. You have demonstrated that you were thoroughly confuse and now you won't admit you were wrong. That's not an admirable trait.

Thank You. But I ever claimed to be admirable.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Thank You. But I ever claimed to be admirable.

But you have claimed to be a follower of Jesus. That should count for something. Humility is part of the package. And is grace. I'm going to leave it at that.

 

[HankD]

But you have claimed to be a follower of Jesus. That should count for something. Humility is part of the package. And is grace. I'm going to leave it at that.

Thank you.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

It looks like the pro gun control folks have come up with a new excuse. It's called the "semi-automatic mechanism" and all guns that incorporate it should now be banned. These people will stop at nothing to demonize firearms and those who use them. Semi-automatic firearms are a 100 + year old technology.View attachment 2915

I wondered when the "Australia solution" would raise its unconstitutional head. Living in the sticks, I've less reason to be concerned about personal protection than most folks, but am an avid hunter. Reading Mr. Duby's screed illustrates that he and his fellow coalition members either know little about hunting or have ignored reality in order to come to their conclusions. My current deer rifle is a 1964 model Remington 76 pump in .30-06, but there are millions of that weapon's sister rifle, 74s/742s, that are semi-autos and many/most manufacturers for centerfire rifles offer models in semi-auto. How many million 10-.22 rimfire semi-autos are out there?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yes one of my sons doctored a .45 automatic pistol and it sprayed out the magazine rounds just by holding the trigger down.

I don't know what he did. He did have some kind of federal gunsmith or dealer license.
it was scary at first to use it but I liked it after a little practice. Very wasteful of reload material.
Difficult for accuracy control but effective as a weapon (I shot EXPERT my last year in the USAF).

Why that particular firearm ... why did he convert it to a automatic? Then how much recoil did you have?

 

[Adonia]

The NRA of 1934 didn't totally ban anything. It did mandate a rigorous licensing and expensive fee regime. Various and sundry states, however, have banned the private ownership of full auto capable firearms. As for the Russian full auto Glocks, they are in Russia, not the States. It looks like you've fallen for some Russian disinformatzia.

I believe fully automatic firearms can still be bought - guns already in circulation, not new ones. Of course the Federal licensing requirements still must be adhered to.

 

[Adonia]

I wasn't speaking in technicalities. For the ordinary citizen, automatic weapons are illegal. It is effectively a ban.

As I just posted, even for ordinary citizens fully automatic firearms are still available, though they are very expensive.

 

[Benjamin]

For a "banned weapon" there sure are a lot of people shooting automatic firearms on Youtube...

 

[HankD]

Why that particular firearm ... why did he convert it to a automatic? Then how much recoil did you have?

Don't know what my BIL and son saw in that .45 - both multi-term Navy vets who got a kick out of doing things like that.
Lots of recoil. In the barn I ended up shooting into the loft.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Don't know what my BIL and son saw in that .45 - both multi-term Navy vets who got a kick out of doing things like that.
Lots of recoil. In the barn I ended up shooting into the loft.

Imagin if he tricked out a 9MM

 

[FollowTheWay]

Mark my words, should semi-automatic firearms be banned it wouldn't be long before they decided revolvers were too dangerous for people to have, especially those in the larger "man killing" calibers. And that pump shotgun that is currently allowed will eventually be called a "weapon of war" because it was used quite effectively during our many armed conflicts. Last but not least, it will then be on to that deer rifle of yours, you know the one with a scope on it? Yes I mean that soon to be called "sniper rifle". Yes indeed, they will all be deemed terrible weapons that should not be allowed on our streets.

Why don't we strengthen gun control in a rational manner one step at a time. Even the IRA and most gun owners support stronger background check. Just because the speed laws are strengthened and enforced doesn't mean our right to drive a car will be taken away. That's how wrong this argument of yours is.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

For a "banned weapon" there sure are a lot of people shooting automatic firearms on Youtube...

If you come to New Jersey you will find that it’s the criminals who have all the guns and use them on the citizens to rob, maim and kill. Your protection is to call the cops (after the fact).