Over the years, I've heard from those who look to the 1689 London Confession of Faith. But, I've read little discussion of the 1833 New Hampshire Confession of Faith. Here's a link to a pdf version. Though it is contained in Hiscox's New Directory
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Over the years, I've heard from those who look to the 1689 London Confession of Faith. But, I've read little discussion of the 1833 New Hampshire Confession of Faith. Here's a link to a pdf version. Though it is contained in Hiscox's New Directory
I understand James Renihan at the same time. Confessions of faith are useful tools as per your article;Check out how Jim Renihan of imploding Reformed Baptist microdenomination ARBCA has characterized/evaluated the New Hampshire Confession:
"a watered-down theology"
"attempt to placate the objections of Arminian Baptists in New Hampshire to...strong Calvinism"
James Renihan | The Reformed Reader
He makes it sound downright sinister!
2. Secondly, this discussion highlights the importance of Confessions of Faith, especially as they are found in early Baptist life. So often we are told, especially by those who dislike careful theological expression, that Confessions are really an imposition on Baptist freedom. One famous Southern Baptist author has written a very long book on Baptist History, in which one of his major themes is an attempt to show that the most basic value in Baptist history has been religious liberty.
For him, confessions are an intrusion on that heritage. They bind people to a mold—a set of doctrines—a situation that is to be avoided at all costs. But we must reply that our forefathers did not seem to feel this way. They believed that Christianity was a religion based upon revelation, and that that revelation was cohesive and consistent. For this reason, they believed that the doctrines found in that body of revelation could be systematized and expressed in such a way that many Christians could agree together about them.
Dr. Robert Martin has stated that a church without a Confession of faith has the theological equivalent of the aids virus, and certainly he is right. It has no defenses, no means by which to repel the onslaughts of error.
When confessions are neglected or rejected, the opportunity arises for churches to slip and fall into error and unbelief. Has not our own century demonstrated to us the truth of this statement? Why have so many churches, and even denominations been lost to unbelief?
It is because the doctrines that were held at the beginning were undervalued by following generations. The Lutherans lost touch with Luther, the Methodists lost touch with Wesley, and the Baptists lost touch with their Confessions. The brave stand taken by Dr. Mohler at Southern Seminary demonstrates this. He called his faculty back to the doctrinal standard of the past—and God has blessed him—and sent opposition to him—as a result.
A good Confession—and honesty in living with it—can be a means by which much good is done in a church. It will not be an albatross to hinder the work of God; rather it will be a means of uniting the people of God around truth, and prevent the spread of error.
We believe that the Bible is a cohesive book. The doctrines found in it integrate with one another, and produce a system that is to be received and believed. A good confession simply expresses the truth that is found in Scripture in a concise form. In this way, everyone who is interested can understand exactly what we believe.
3. The third implication that I would like to draw out has reference to our heritage as Baptists in America. The theology of these Confessions is our own. When one considers the history and development of Baptist thought and practice in America, one must give a significant place to these two London Confessions of Faith. Their common theological statements shaped and molded much of the thinking and practice of the churches on this side of the Atlantic.
Contrast that screed with a thoughtful article by 9Mark Dever on what confession of faith is best for a Baptist congregation to use:
"The Westminster Confession was written to be used by a national, established church, with a final centralized authority....it was baptistified in Restoration England [as the 1689 London Baptist Confession]"
Many men I know, love, respect and learn from would say that the 1689 Confession is the best...I once thought so. Now, having pastored a congregation for a little more than 10 years....I think the New Hampshire Confession actually serves us better.
"I came to appreciate the New Hampshire Confession more and more....18 straightforward articles....clothed in 19th century language....[not] the 17th century language of the 1689 Confession....Instead of getting lost in the finer points of theology—points that we did not have to agree upon in order to be a local church together—we could deal with the main points of doctrine."
Writing in 1881, William Cathcart, the editor of The Baptist Encyclopedia, said "In England and America, churches, individuals, and Associations, with clear minds, with hearts full of love for the truth, . . . have held with veneration the articles of 1689." Certainly, this was true, but sadly, Cathcart failed to see that even in his own day there was a serious departure from this great old document. Many churches moved away from the London/Philadelphia standard in favor of the New Hampshire Confession, a product of J. Newton Brown’s attempt to placate the objections of Arminian Baptists in New Hampshire to the strong Calvinism of the older Confession. With a watered-down theology, theological depth was lost in the churches, and they were swept away by the dueling movements of liberalism and fundamentalism. Without a clear-cut theological system in place, the churches had no defense against the vagaries of liberalism or the reductionism of fundamentalism. For the first half of the twentieth century, awareness of the Second London Confession was at an all-time low among the Baptist churches.Check out how Jim Renihan of imploding Reformed Baptist microdenomination ARBCA has characterized/evaluated the New Hampshire Confession:
"a watered-down theology"
"attempt to placate the objections of Arminian Baptists in New Hampshire to...strong Calvinism"
James Renihan | The Reformed Reader
He makes it sound downright sinister!
My church subscribes to the New Hampshire Confession. Personally, I subscribe to the 1689 Second London Baptist Confession of Faith. Do I consider the difference to be a big deal? Not at all. The New Hampshire Confession is good enough. My preferences are not the last word on any matter.Over the years, I've heard from those who look to the 1689 London Confession of Faith. But, I've read little discussion of the 1833 New Hampshire Confession of Faith. Here's a link to a pdf version. Though it is contained in Hiscox's New Directory
Writing in 1881, William Cathcart, the editor of The Baptist Encyclopedia, said "In England and America, churches, individuals, and Associations, with clear minds, with hearts full of love for the truth, . . . have held with veneration the articles of 1689."
Controversies with the Freewill Baptists, who were aggressive and active, is a definite part of the history of the period in which the New Hampshire Confession was written. (These had broken off from the Regular Baptists under the leadership of Benjamin Randall and others. New Durham, New Hampshire was the center of this movement.) Nevertheless, Renihan’s language is inaccurate, in my opinion. I don’t think Brown was trying to placate the Freewill Baptists. I think they were looking to tighten up the confession (shorten, simplify) in a form that the churches could better understand and defend. Certainly, that is just my opinion....the New Hampshire Confession, a product of J. Newton Brown’s attempt to placate the objections of Arminian Baptists in New Hampshire to the strong Calvinism of the older Confession...
Over the years, I've heard from those who look to the 1689 London Confession of Faith. But, I've read little discussion of the 1833 New Hampshire Confession of Faith. Here's a link to a pdf version. Though it is contained in Hiscox's New Directory