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I love bonafide "students of the scriptures". Been on board for years, haven't met many here. Most are here to echo the narrative of the 'orthodoxy' they've been indoctrinated with, here to be heard not to listen, and, free thinkers often get accused of heresy. Just sayin....
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I will gladly 'discuss scripture' with you, at least once.
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OK . . . let's start with a biggie: "Once saved, always saved." I know that statement doesn't appear word for word in the Bible. However, Romans 10:9 & 10 says that if we believe Jesus Christ is Lord and that God raised him from the dead, we shall (absolutely) be saved (sozo - made whole). Now, I believe when God says saved, He means saved . . . from His wrath that is to come because of the accomplishments of His Son, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:10). And at the time we believe Jesus Christ is Lord and that God raised him from the dead, we also receive God's gift of holy spirit which made us whole: body, soul (breath life) and spirit once again--that which Adam and Eve lost (spirit life) because of their transgression in the Garden. The gift of holy spirit (that which God is Holy & Spirit) is also that which is "the seed of the woman" in Genesis 3:15. 2 Corinthians 5:19 says that "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself . . ." So, the seed that made us God's kids is God is Christ in us. It's an incorruptible seed, as stated in 1 Peter 1:23. His seed abides within His kids, and there's nothing we could ever do, say, or think that would change that. It's incorruptible. The seed from our earthly father is corruptible. However, even if our earthly father wants to disown us, or we would desire to disown him, it may be done legally; but, nonetheless, his seed will always be in us until either he dies or we die, then it is corrupted. His seed carries on in his children until the last relative with his seed is childless and dies. In the end, I believe that what Jesus Christ accomplished is so huge that it's impossible to know it all. One day, we will know more, but until then, we have God's Word to learn and grow in, and we can be continually thankful for God's Word and His Son. - KP
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Your presentation seems to make it hard to follow. So according to your information at what point does one know one is irrevocably saved in order to have OSAS?
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Hi, Dr. Bob. I apologize. I suppose I didn't read all the rules. However, I've been listening for 75 years. I thought this would be a forum for open discussion. I guess not. When looking for a college to study theology, I noticed that every single one required me to sign a Statement of Beliefs. It took quite some time to find one that didn't, and, of course, it wasn't accredited. Reminded me of Christ. He wasn't accredited by the religious leaders either, nor was the man who died on the cross next to him. You know, the one who believed in Jesus Christ and made it to Paradise? That was the extent of Jesus Christ's rules and regs. No worries. I'll go elsewhere. Kathy P.
