A note of clarification: Acts 1:8 is probably not a outline for our own missions programs. It is an outline of the initial spread of the gospel, and really serves as an outline for the book of Acts, that records its history.
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Pastor Larry,Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
A note of clarification: Acts 1:8 is probably not a outline for our own missions programs. It is an outline of the initial spread of the gospel, and really serves as an outline for the book of Acts, that records its history.
Pastor Larry,Originally posted by Pastor Larry:
I agree with the principle of what you are saying. My point was that Acts 1:8 is not the place to argue it from. Christ was there telling how the gospel would spread.
I think it wise to make sure our own efforts and evangelism is taking place. But we must maintain a worldwide vision at the same time. I do not see this as an either/or but rather as a both/and.
We must maintain our mission at home while also furthering the missions of the world.
I do agree with you on this point, providing that the pastor is going to do full time ministry work. Health insurance and a livable salary should be among the first "missions projects" for the church.Originally posted by IfbReformer:
But let me ask you a practical question that this philosphy would affect - If a church is not able to support it's pastor full time - in other words he has to work a part time job, do they have any business supporting other churches Pastors(ie. Missionaries) Is not the Pastor of our local church the first 'Missionary' we are to support?
So this seems to me to be an either/or situation.
You either support your pastor full time or you support your pastor part time and support some missionaries part time.
Perhaps you consider the biblical admonitions and add "grace" and "tact" to your list ...Originally posted by Surrender To Jesus:
Let me tell you about the type of Baptist that I am and that I will die as. [middle edited] ...A Born again, Independent, Fundamental, KJB AV1611 loving, uncompromising, sold out to God, separated, blood bought, sin hating, sinner loving, mission minded, hell raising, Baptist
Amen and Amen brother!Originally posted by Surrender To Jesus:
Let me tell you about the type of Baptist that I am and that I will die as.
First of all. I am a born again, Independent (self governing) fundamental (we hold to the fundamentals of the faith, God's Preserved Word, God's standards, separated, (hate sin and call it by it's rightful name) I am a King James Bible AV1611 ONLY (God's Word and not mans' perversion amen!) Uncompromising, We don't compromise God's Word, his music, his standards, we believe and OBEY His Word: therefore NO: and yea our ladies don't wear pants but they are exactly that, they are ladies and they are clean and our boys look like boys, they aren't a bunch of long haired, thumbsucking, pansy acting, pro liberal, pro anything goes compromisers. This worship "feel goodism" we have today is a bunch of garbage, Real Biblical preaching convicts, go ahead and hate me (join the rest of the rebels but i'll tell you what, the baptist or any other type of church can change all the time to make everyone happy...but a Biblical planted hell raising Baptist church will always be the same.
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED KING JAMES BIBLE
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED PREACHER WHO PREACHES THE KINGDOM OF GOD!
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED REVIVAL!
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED HYMNAL BOOK!
WE NEED AN OLD FASHIONED DRESS STANDARDS
WE NEED OLD FASHIONED PREACHING AND TO CALL SIN BY IT'S NAME
The backslider likes the preaching that wouldn't hit the side of a house, while the real disciple is delighted when the truth brings him to his knees. (Billy Sunday)
sincerely,
A Born again, Independent, Fundamental, KJB AV1611 loving, uncompromising, sold out to God, separated, blood bought, sin hating, sinner loving, mission minded, hell raising, Baptist
Surrender To Jesus,Originally posted by Surrender To Jesus:
I am a born again, Independent (self governing) fundamental (we hold to the fundamentals of the faith, God's Preserved Word, God's standards, separated, (hate sin and call it by it's rightful name) I am a King James Bible AV1611 ONLY (God's Word and not mans' perversion amen!) Uncompromising, We don't compromise God's Word, his music, his standards, we believe and OBEY His Word: therefore NO:
So a women is not a lady if she wears pants - where can I find this in the Bible?Originally posted by Surrender To Jesus:
and yea our ladies don't wear pants but they are exactly that, they are ladies and they are clean and our boys look like boys, they aren't a bunch of long haired, thumbsucking, pansy acting, pro liberal, pro anything goes compromisers.
I don't hate you - I pray for you. You seem to have a lot of pent up anger inside you. It's so frustrating for you - you are constantly asking yourself this question(I know because I used to be where you are) "Why can't everybody be like me? Why doesn't everybody apply the scripture the way I do? How can people actually have different standards than me?"Originally posted by Surrender To Jesus:
This worship "feel goodism" we have today is a bunch of garbage, Real Biblical preaching convicts, go ahead and hate me