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New Jersey anti gun law universally ignored

carpro

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Million Plus NJ Gun Owners Defy State Law, Refuse to Turn Over Banned Gun Mags



New Jersey's standard capacity magazine ban is now in effect making New Jersey's one million gun owners criminals in the eyes of the state. But in an act of mass definace, New Jersey residents refuse to comply.

Any magazine holding more than ten rounds is now illegal in the Garden State. The standard magazine for an AR-15 holds 30 rounds. Glock 19s, which is the most popular pistol in the United States, holds 15 rounds. Anyone who is possession of larger magazine is committing a fourth-degree felony.

Anyone caught with one of the now banned magazines in their possession faces up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both for each magazine found.

The bill was signed into law last June by Gov. Phil Murphy (D). Residents had until December 11th, 2018, to turn over magazines to police or sell or store them out of state.



AmmoLand also asked the Governor's office what Gov. Murphy thinks of users on the internet saying that the ban is unenforceable and laughing at the Governor's attempt at regulating magazine sizes.

Gov. Murphy and his office refused to comment on these gun owner's opinions.
 

kyredneck

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Anyone caught with one of the now banned magazines in their possession faces up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both for each magazine found.

This is scary stuff.

"...Their attempt on blocking the law failed in a federal appeals court. The three-judge panel ruled that a law limiting the number of rounds a magazine holds did not violate the US Constitution and did not put an undue burden on New Jersey gun owners...."

How long before this becomes Federal law? The instant Democrats obtain total control is when.
 

kyredneck

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AmmoLand also asked the Governor's office what Gov. Murphy thinks of users on the internet saying that the ban is unenforceable and laughing at the Governor's attempt at regulating magazine sizes.

They'd best stop prodding the bear....
 

FollowTheWay

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Million Plus NJ Gun Owners Defy State Law, Refuse to Turn Over Banned Gun Mags



New Jersey's standard capacity magazine ban is now in effect making New Jersey's one million gun owners criminals in the eyes of the state. But in an act of mass definace, New Jersey residents refuse to comply.

Any magazine holding more than ten rounds is now illegal in the Garden State. The standard magazine for an AR-15 holds 30 rounds. Glock 19s, which is the most popular pistol in the United States, holds 15 rounds. Anyone who is possession of larger magazine is committing a fourth-degree felony.

Anyone caught with one of the now banned magazines in their possession faces up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both for each magazine found.

The bill was signed into law last June by Gov. Phil Murphy (D). Residents had until December 11th, 2018, to turn over magazines to police or sell or store them out of state.



AmmoLand also asked the Governor's office what Gov. Murphy thinks of users on the internet saying that the ban is unenforceable and laughing at the Governor's attempt at regulating magazine sizes.

Gov. Murphy and his office refused to comment on these gun owner's opinions.
Should laws be obeyed or not?
 

777

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You're going to have trouble every time if you expect people to follow laws that are selectively applied - sanctuary cities do not follow federal law, some example.

On topic, this NJ law is modeled after the SAFE thing in NY state, but the latter had to be amended several times and this NJ one is written even more poorly that the original NY law - it limits rounds to everyone, included LEO. And one of those judges is a real dimwit:

“New Jersey’s law reasonably fits the State’s interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home,” the court wrote in their decision.

The 2A says NADA about any right to self-defense in the home, sheesh, "shall not be abridged". Gun grabbers have always had trouble getting compliance, and not just in this country. The NY state law was appealed then dropped after Scalia's death - both sides thought it'd be 4-4 and the law would be thus upheld. Now they have to start anew. In NJ, they are probably sending their guns out of state to relatives and friends if the guns survive all those boating accidents.
 

Adonia

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Should laws be obeyed or not?

The Constitution should be obeyed and just about every gun law ever passed is nothing less than an infringement on people exercising one of their constitutional rights. What good is a law that makes criminals out of otherwise hard working and law abiding citizens? How would you feel about a 3 day waiting period and a requirement to get permission from some government official before you could buy a computer? New Jersey is so wacked out against guns they have even placed BB guns in the category of real firearms.

To buy a firearm in NJ one has to have a state issued firearms identification card. A background check is required for each firearm purchase, and to buy a pistol one has to get a special permit signed by the local Gestapo official, I mean Police Chief, for each individual purchase. There is also the proverbial "waiting period" that the citizen must endure. Mind you, criminals will not be going through any of those steps to get their guns - so in the main this only affects the law abiding citizen, the person you do not have to worry about.
 
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just-want-peace

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The Constitution should be obeyed and just about every gun law ever passed is nothing less than an infringement on people exercising one of their constitutional rights. What good is a law that makes criminals out of otherwise hard working and law abiding citizens? How would you feel about a 3 day waiting period and a requirement to get permission from some government official before you could buy a computer? New Jersey is so wacked out against guns they have even placed BB guns in the category of real firearms.

To buy a firearm in NJ one has to have a state issued firearms identification card. A background check is required for each firearm purchase, and to buy a pistol one has to get a special permit signed by the local Gestapo official, I mean Police Chief, for each individual purchase. There is also the proverbial "waiting period" that the citizen must endure. Mind you, criminals will not be going through any of those steps to get their guns - so in the main this only affects the law abiding citizen, the person you do not have to worry about.

But, BUT, it makes them feel so good that they are doing SOMETHING!!
Like my Daddy used to say, "Do something, even if you have to clean it up." Well they ARE doing something, & they are gonna have to clean it up sometime down the road!!
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Should laws be obeyed or not?
Dems will always say no, unless they are first allowed to change them. This is a clear cut case of that very problem. Dems want to do away with the second amendment, that is, they want to do away with the law. Once that is done, they will then be for the law, that is, the new law.
 

FollowTheWay

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Dems will always say no, unless they are first allowed to change them. This is a clear cut case of that very problem. Dems want to do away with the second amendment, that is, they want to do away with the law. Once that is done, they will then be for the law, that is, the new law.
That's not the case.
 

Adonia

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Did anyone ask Rosa Parks or ML King that?

Good point. There is nothing wrong in disobeying unjust laws, especially ones that directly contravene either the Federal or various State constitutions.
 

FollowTheWay

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Did anyone ask Rosa Parks or ML King that?
people can chose to disobey laws they consider to be unjust. They just must be prepared to suffer the consequences. ML King and Rosa Parks thought it was worth the penalty.
 
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