New King James Version

Which King James Version do you use?
Here is a sample test:

1. Ruth III:15d (KJV1611):

... and he went into the citie.

2. Ruth 3:15 (KJV1769):

... and she went into the city.

3. Ruth 3:15 (KJV1873):

... and he went into the city.

I note that most KJV electronic sources
are from the KJV1769. (but not all, we've
found variants with on-line KJVs.)

 

I checked with a Greek friend who happens to know KOINE Greek quite well, and he tells me that "being" saved is the correct translation. He tells me that it's English equivalent doesn't mean it's an ongoung process within each individual, but it's a "group" thing, I.E. "The revival is so far a success, with dozens BEING SAVED every day." In other words, Paul, who was already saved, was including himself with the group from which individuals were being saved, but were not all saved at that time. Yes, people were BEING saved, same as they are today.

KJV 66, you would do well to ignore the Wilkinson-Ray-Fuller party-line KJVO malarkey and study the thing for yourself.

 

Romans 1:25 (KJV) Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 (NKJV) who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. (ASV, NASV, NIV, NRSV)

Romans 4:25 (KJV) Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Romans 4:25 (NKJV) who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification. (NASV)

2 Corinthians 2:17 (KJV) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

2 Corinthians 2:17 (NKJV) For we are not, as so many, peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ. (NASV, NIV, NRSV, RSV)

Galatians 5:4 (KJV) Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Galatians 5:4 (NKJV) You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. (ASV, NASV, NIV, NRSV)

2 Tim. 2:15 (KJV) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Tim. 2:15 (NKJV) Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (ASV, NASV, NIV, RSV, NRSV)

Titus 3:10 (KJV) A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

Titus 3:10 (NKJV) Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition, (ASV, NASV, NIV, NRSV)

"Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand." (Psalm 109:6 KJV)

"Set a wicked man over him, And let an accuser stand at his right hand." (NKJV)

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV)

"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (NKJV. Also in 2 Corinthians 2:15)

 

Robycop - What verse are you quoting?

 

kjv66: Robycop - What verse are you quoting?

None...but I was referring to 1 Corinthians 1:18.

 

In reading the NT you will find salvation is used in three tenses, past, present and future.

If you read 1 Peter 1:3-5 that will give you a little of that flavor.

 

If you checked, you would find that the KJV translators translated the same Greek word at
2 Tim. 2:15 as "endeavour" (Eph. 4:3, 1 Thess. 2:17, 2 Pet. 1:15), do diligence (2 Tim. 4:9, 21), "be diligent (Titus 3:12, 2 Pet. 3:14), give diligence (2 Pet. 1:10), be forward (Gal. 2:10),
and labour (Heb. 4:11). Would you claim that the KJV translators mistranslated this same Greek word at other verses?

D. A. Waite's DEFINED KJB gave the following note for "study" at 2 Tim. 2:15: "Gk be diligent" (p. 1579). KJV-only advocate David Cloud gave the meaning of "study" at this verse as "to give diligence to" (WAY OF LIFE ENCYCLOPEDIA, p. 425).
The 1755 Johnson' DICTIONARY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE as well as the 1828 WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY gave as one meaning of the verb study: "to endeavour diligently."

The 1657 English translation of the 1637 Dutch Authorized Version began the text of 2 Timothy 2:15 as follows: "Give diligence."

 

This post reminds me of the culture of a group of people I studied some years ago in a cultural anthropology course who have no number greater than three in their language. I quoted in my post ALL of the current major translations of the Bible into English, and ALL of them agree that the temporal aspect of the Greek should be translated as it is in the NKJV. Your absurd comment in your post made me curious as to why you would write such a thing, and I checked with several scholars of the Greek text of 1 Corinthians, and they also ALL agree that the temporal aspect of the Greek should be translated as it is in the NKJV. Therefore, I am still curious from whence cometh your silly notion about 1 Cor. 1:18?

 

While we define the verb "study" as examining with the intention of learning, an archaic definition was "endeavor". This is almost certainly the sense in which the AV translators used it, as the Greek 'spoudazo' means endeavor, work diligently, etc. This meaning for 'study' had become obsolete when later Bibles were made, and 'work diligently' defined 'spoudazo' better in English.

 

I think you will find the NKJV to be a great translation to read and study. It is one of my two preferred translations. I have an original copy that I purchased when I was saved in 1982 and a more recent Baptist Study Edition that has good reference notes on the bottom of the pages. I spend more time now in the HCSB, but I refer to my NKJV almost daily. Bruce

 

Amen, BruceB -- Preach it!

Only i abandoned the nKJV. For privite
devotion and teaching my Sunday School class
i use the HCSB = Holman Christian Standard
Bible. Now that i have an electronic copy
of the KJV1611 Edition, i find it useful
and handy for on-line use. Once you get the
U/V thing down and the I/J thing, it is
rather easy to read (having used it over 50
years as a Christian).

 

I also like the NKJV, but I personally don't plan to be around in a couple hundred years.

 

I do. Maybe not on planet earth though.



HankD

 

I like the NKJV. It reads much like the KJV only in the English we speak today. While it has its strengths and weaknesses, it is a very good translation and hopefully will get revised to correct areas that need it.

 

What areas need correction? </font>[/QUOTE]Like other modern versions, it might be helpful and appropriate if they differentiated the second person singular "you" from the second person plural "you".

I would go with "y'all" or "y'ones" for the second person plural ("y'ones" is a peculiar E TN, W NC form).

 

The KJV is superior to the New KJV because the NKJV mixes with more TR texts and less Alexandrian texts.