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New Mexico Abolishes the Death Penalty

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BigBossman

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Magnetic Poles said:
Really? Life in prison without the possibility of parole is not a reason to not kill? Besides, if execution were a detterent, Texas would not have murders. We all know that isn't the case.

Life in an American prison is easy. They have free food, free shelter, & free healthcare. All of which is at our expense. The worst part is they get better healthcare inside than we get on the outside.

If they go to a Mexican prison, their family has to provide everything for them including the food or else they starve.
 

dcorbett

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All this talk.....I completed a research paper for one of my criminal justice classes at Liberty Univ that proved by countless scripture quotes and research - that God supports the death penalty. For instance, all mankind pays for the sin of Adam by penalty of death.

I got an "A" on the paper.
 

Marcia

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sag38 said:
.......and murderes, child rapists, etc.

And all the bleeding hearts clapped.

Child rape -- or any rape, unless it involves murder -- does not get the death penalty in any state.
 

matt wade

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dcorbett said:
All this talk.....I completed a research paper for one of my criminal justice classes at Liberty Univ that proved by countless scripture quotes and research - that God supports the death penalty. For instance, all mankind pays for the sin of Adam by penalty of death.

I got an "A" on the paper.

So if I write a research paper for school can I then say that I am the authority on the subject and that all others are wrong?
 

matt wade

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BigBossman said:
Life in an American prison is easy. They have free food, free shelter, & free healthcare. All of which is at our expense. The worst part is they get better healthcare inside than we get on the outside.

If they go to a Mexican prison, their family has to provide everything for them including the food or else they starve.

I agree...prison life in America is way too easy. In "my world", prison would consist of many deep holes in the ground with one prisoner per a hole. The entire area would be fenced in with a guard on each corner. Each guard would have a rifle. Any movement above the holes would result in getting shot. Twice a day a plane would do fly overs and drop bottled water and bread. If the water or food makes it in the hole, the prisoner eats and drinks. Doesn't make it in the hole? They don't.

That would deter crime!
 

just-want-peace

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matt wade said:
So if I write a research paper for school can I then say that I am the authority on the subject and that all others are wrong?
If your data can be
--proved by countless scripture quotes and research-- ,
I see no reason why not!:laugh:

Oops, sorry dc, didn't mean to speak for you!!:tongue3:
 

Jon-Marc

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Yes, we must feel sorry for all the murderers and just coddle them for the rest of their lives in prison with our tax dollars.
 

Jon-Marc

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Marcia said:
Child rape -- or any rape, unless it involves murder -- does not get the death penalty in any state.

I think it should. I hope New Mexico has plenty of money to imprison for the rest of their lives those who should be executed, or do they just send them to other states and let them be someone else's financial problem.
 
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Alcott

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Magnetic Poles said:
Really? Life in prison without the possibility of parole is not a reason to not kill?

How is life in prison without the possibility of parole not, in fact, the death penalty?-- taking away their liberty and confining them till they're dead.

However, I will be presumptuous and say you would argue that if evidence can be found that would show the conviction to be a mistake, the convicted person could be freed and have years of life. It's also true that escapes are possible with 'life without parole,' and not with more immediate execution (rather obviously). Consider the case in Fort Worth a few years ago, where the escaped convicts murdered a man.

And while virtually no one would really advocate the above example of each prisoner having his own hole, to be shot immediately if he so much as raises his head out of it, more work should be gotten out of them. But in Arizona, where that sheriff put them on the chain gang doing road construction, people see them and they get all that sympthay! The 'punishment' for refusing to respect the life, liberty, and property of others is to get free food and shelter and do nothing to earn it. Make them work, pay them in some form, and let them buy their food, blankets, privileges, et al.
 

Magnetic Poles

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Alcott said:
How is life in prison without the possibility of parole not, in fact, the death penalty?-- taking away their liberty and confining them till they're dead.

However, I will be presumptuous and say you would argue that if evidence can be found that would show the conviction to be a mistake, the convicted person could be freed and have years of life. It's also true that escapes are possible with 'life without parole,' and not with more immediate execution (rather obviously). Consider the case in Fort Worth a few years ago, where the escaped convicts murdered a man.

And while virtually no one would really advocate the above example of each prisoner having his own hole, to be shot immediately if he so much as raises his head out of it, more work should be gotten out of them. But in Arizona, where that sheriff put them on the chain gang doing road construction, people see them and they get all that sympthay! The 'punishment' for refusing to respect the life, liberty, and property of others is to get free food and shelter and do nothing to earn it. Make them work, pay them in some form, and let them buy their food, blankets, privileges, et al.
I agree that prison shouldn't be a paid vacation. They indeed should be put to work to earn their keep.
 

Revmitchell

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Magnetic Poles said:
I agree that prison shouldn't be a paid vacation. They indeed should be put to work to earn their keep.


According to many libbies that would be slavery.
 

matt wade

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Alcott said:
And while virtually no one would really advocate the above example of each prisoner having his own hole, to be shot immediately if he so much as raises his head out of it, more work should be gotten out of them. But in Arizona, where that sheriff put them on the chain gang doing road construction, people see them and they get all that sympthay! The 'punishment' for refusing to respect the life, liberty, and property of others is to get free food and shelter and do nothing to earn it. Make them work, pay them in some form, and let them buy their food, blankets, privileges, et al.

"virtually no one"...maybe I am the only one, but I'd honestly like to see a system like I described. I guarantee that after word got out we'd have to maintain less holes than when we started.
 

Alcott

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Revmitchell said:
According to many libbies that would be slavery.

In case they haven't read the Constitution, the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery, contains an exception for "the punishment of a crime."
 

Jon-Marc

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Yes, I can see how prison is a terrible punishment with everything free: three meals a day, exercise equipment provided so they can build up their bodies and become more dangerous, free medical and dental care, access to a phone so they can hire hit men, access to a computer, access to drugs and booze through corrupt guards that they can easily bribe, and conjugal visits from the wives or girlfriends.

Yes, I can definitely see how difficult prison is considering I can't afford medical or dental care, can barely afford enough food to eat, can't afford exercise equipment, can barely afford a telephone, TV and computer (without which I'd have nothing to do) and I have to pay for it all as well as paying for everything the prisoners get for free.

The only thing I have that they don't have is the freedom to come and go as they please--that is, if I could afford the gas for my car in order to go anywhere, and if I could afford to do anything once I got there. Yes, I can really see where they have it very rough compared to me--confined with everything they need or want provided by taxpayers.
 
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