prophecynut
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Be sure to read this link in the whatreallyhappened.com link above:
http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759
http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759
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New Orleans to be reinhabited - but not by nasty poor people
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I did find it odd to hear the word "refugee" being used after the storm to describe US citizens, I didn't know why at first, but the more I thought about it, the more it made me uncomfortable.
Here is a government I found about the US Government and the United Nations in regards to "refugees":
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/refapp.htm
You can also find out more about "refugees" at the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants' Web site: http://www.refugees.org/
I am doing a search on Google to see if this is the first time that they have used the term "refugee" to refer to US Citizens within our own country, let me know if you find this before I do.
President Bush seems to agree, he said, "The people we're talking about are not refugees, They are Americans and they need the help and love and compassion of our fellow citizens."
To me it's not a matter of race, afterall, not all of these people are black:
[ September 12, 2005, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: JGrubbs ]
Here is a government I found about the US Government and the United Nations in regards to "refugees":
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/refapp.htm
You can also find out more about "refugees" at the U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants' Web site: http://www.refugees.org/
I am doing a search on Google to see if this is the first time that they have used the term "refugee" to refer to US Citizens within our own country, let me know if you find this before I do.
President Bush seems to agree, he said, "The people we're talking about are not refugees, They are Americans and they need the help and love and compassion of our fellow citizens."
To me it's not a matter of race, afterall, not all of these people are black:
[ September 12, 2005, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: JGrubbs ]
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Then you would be assuming, and you know what they say when you assume. Throughout history we have never called our citizens "refugees," except in this instance. I don't care what their race is they are still citizens and deserve that acknowledgment. Besides, why would any Christian want to knowingly give offense to someone? I was pointing out that it is offensive, so that people could stop using the term. My bible must read differently then others, though, since I am only trying to be "PC". Please, tell me, how can we bring the message of God's love to the victims, if we use a term that offends? I'm sure they would definitely listen, just tell them to "get over it".
prophecynut
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From the John Pilger site, home page:
ITV SHOWS LATEST PILGER DOCUMENTARY, 'STEALING A NATION'
John Pilger On October 6, the ITV Network showed John Pilger's 'Stealing a Nation'. This is a shocking, almost incredible story, largely hidden from history, of the secret expulsion of the entire population of the Chagos Islands, a British colony in the Indian Ocean, by the British Government, so that the main island, Diego Garcia, could be given to America as a military base. More than 2,000 people were dumped a thousand miles away, in the slums of Mauritius, and received little in compensation. Their fortunes changed in the 1990s with the discovery of a bundle of official files, which reveal a conspiracy between the Foreign Office in London and officials in Washington.
A booklet about Diego Garcia has been produced by ITV. It costs £2.50 and is available by phoning 08708 303481. (Cheques should be made payable to Granada TV). Or please write to:
Stealing a Nation
PO Box 3646
Colchester C02 8GB
If you would like to help the islanders, you can give to the Ilois (islanders) Support Trust. The London bank account is Natwest, No 90213319, sort code 60-30-06.
ITV SHOWS LATEST PILGER DOCUMENTARY, 'STEALING A NATION'
John Pilger On October 6, the ITV Network showed John Pilger's 'Stealing a Nation'. This is a shocking, almost incredible story, largely hidden from history, of the secret expulsion of the entire population of the Chagos Islands, a British colony in the Indian Ocean, by the British Government, so that the main island, Diego Garcia, could be given to America as a military base. More than 2,000 people were dumped a thousand miles away, in the slums of Mauritius, and received little in compensation. Their fortunes changed in the 1990s with the discovery of a bundle of official files, which reveal a conspiracy between the Foreign Office in London and officials in Washington.
A booklet about Diego Garcia has been produced by ITV. It costs £2.50 and is available by phoning 08708 303481. (Cheques should be made payable to Granada TV). Or please write to:
Stealing a Nation
PO Box 3646
Colchester C02 8GB
If you would like to help the islanders, you can give to the Ilois (islanders) Support Trust. The London bank account is Natwest, No 90213319, sort code 60-30-06.
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am doing a search on Google to see if this is the first time that they have used the term "refugee" to refer to US Citizens within our own country, let me know if you find this before I do.
I have done searches on Ask Jeeves, Find Law, AOL, etc., since I first heard the term, and have not come up with anything. Every time they are "vicitms" or "evacuees"
I have done searches on Ask Jeeves, Find Law, AOL, etc., since I first heard the term, and have not come up with anything. Every time they are "vicitms" or "evacuees"
Condoleezza Rice says in interview set for Tuesday Katrina 'gives us an opportunity' to rectify historic injustices that she personally experienced as an African American growing up in the South. 'When it's rebuilt, it should be rebuilt in a different way than it was at the time that this happened' ... there could be an effort to 'deal with the problem of persistent poverty'...
Source: http://www.drudgereport.com/
Source: http://www.drudgereport.com/
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I prefer the term survivors.
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very well put
Day after the storm I checked NO real estate prices which are equivalent to Seattle's The value must be in the land - Their (scab) labor is probably less than the wage cost in Seattle. Probably a third. No sane private land owner would contruct $100k residences next to $350k condos.
I suspect the new residents will be retired rich people from California and the North East who will retire to NO instead of Florida or Arizona.
I suspect the new residents will be retired rich people from California and the North East who will retire to NO instead of Florida or Arizona.
Since we apparently want to be politically correct as well as gramatically, I will conceed that evacuees is probably a better fit for those who were actually "evacuated".
However , those who left on their own without any assistance would be more accurately called refugees. They are most certainly not "evacuees" nor are they "survivors" since a lot of them left before the storm.
My question is why would a Christian want to be so easily offended by something so minor. What's the word I'm looking for? Pious, for some reason, comes to mind.
However , those who left on their own without any assistance would be more accurately called refugees. They are most certainly not "evacuees" nor are they "survivors" since a lot of them left before the storm.
My question is why would a Christian want to be so easily offended by something so minor. What's the word I'm looking for? Pious, for some reason, comes to mind.
I found another reference to "American refugees"...
In Webster's 1828 Dictionary it says:
"...the American refugees, who left their country at the revolution."
Source: Webster's 1828 Dictionary
hmmmm
In Webster's 1828 Dictionary it says:
"...the American refugees, who left their country at the revolution."
Source: Webster's 1828 Dictionary
hmmmm
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Yes. While the poor, mostly black, residents of New Orleans are stuffed first into the Superdome and Convention Center, then shipped hither and yon across the U.S. South, the wealthy of New Orleans are taking charge.
Yeah, I agree with Matt's OP--we should have left the poor there so they could drown. That way those nasty rich white folks wouldn't have to worry about the scummy poor people coming back.
Yeah, I agree with Matt's OP--we should have left the poor there so they could drown. That way those nasty rich white folks wouldn't have to worry about the scummy poor people coming back.
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FP said- "Then you would be assuming, and you know what they say when you assume."
That would be u and me right? I don't know that it is assuming. I'd call it an educated guess. My guess is if this were a city of white folks, you nor Jesse would be pushing this. But of course Jesse had to make it racial somhow. But since it is being pushed, I vote for the "the folks who formerly occupied the City of New Orleans".
That would be u and me right?
I don't know that it is assuming. I'd call it an educated guess. My guess is if this were a city of white folks, you nor Jesse would be pushing this. But of course Jesse had to make it racial somhow. But since it is being pushed, I vote for the "the folks who formerly occupied the City of New Orleans".