New School Prayer

[Wesley Briggman]

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd
If scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now
Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice
For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State.
We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.
We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong.
We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong.
We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen

 

[Baptist Believer]

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule...

Personal prayer - and even vocal corporate prayer initiated and organized by students during non-directed time - has never been "against the rule."

Even if it was, it would be a futile rule since no one can stop silent prayer.

God's name is prohibited by the State.

Obviously, its not. For instance, it's all over our money.

They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.

The Bible has not been outlawed.

There might have been some good points to make in this rhyme, but it is based on falsehoods.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

Personal prayer - and even vocal corporate prayer initiated and organized by students during non-directed time - has never been "against the rule."

Even if it was, it would be a futile rule since no one can stop silent prayer.


Obviously, its not. For instance, it's all over our money.


The Bible has not been outlawed.

There might have been some good points to make in this rhyme, but it is based on falsehoods.

Thanks for your criticism. I don't know the author, but is sounds like he/she/it was venting. Ya think?

 

[church mouse guy]

Now the prom queens are guys in some places.

 

[Baptist Believer]

I don't know the author, but is sounds like he/she/it was venting. Ya think?

The author (usually claimed to be a "student", but almost certainly not) is "venting" about a religious situation that is not real. Then the writer takes that false narrative and weaves other things around it as cause and effect. It is simply propaganda.

 

[church mouse guy]

The author (usually claimed to be a "student", but almost certainly not) is "venting" about a religious situation that is not real. Then the writer takes that false narrative and weaves other things around it as cause and effect. It is simply propaganda.

It is sardonic humor. More truth than poetry.

 

[Baptist Believer]

It is sardonic humor. More truth than poetry.

It's rhyme, not poetry, and there's not much truth in it.

The following are just a few examples of baldly false statements:

"Where praying is against the rule"

"And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now"

"The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice"

"In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State."

"They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible." (The Bible is not outlawed)

"To quote the Good Book makes me liable."

 

[church mouse guy]

It's rhyme, not poetry, and there's not much truth in it.

The following are just a few examples of baldly false statements:

"Where praying is against the rule"

"And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now"

"The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice"

"In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State."

"They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible." (The Bible is not outlawed)

"To quote the Good Book makes me liable."

You are too young probably to remember the old America that is gone forever because of liberals.

 

[Baptist Believer]

You are too young probably to remember the old America that is gone forever because of liberals.

That's a weird comment. If something is true, it is true - regardless of what anyone thinks.

If something is false, it is false - regardless of what anyone thinks.

I am 52, but I had a teacher (Roman Catholic, FWIW) who ignored the teacher-initiated prayer decisions and my class recited the Catholic version of the Lord's Prayer every morning and memorized Luke 2 during Xmas season.

As a class, we plowed through the Lord's Prayer as a vain repetition and Luke 2 as an assignment, and they meant very little. However, a hypocritical Roman Catholicism ruled over the classroom - not the kind of environment that I would want anyone else to experience.

My father went through public schools in the 1930s and early 1940s (before the war) and never had the teacher lead in prayer or scripture reading. My mother went through public high school in the very late 1940s and early 1950s and also did not experience a teacher leading in prayer or scripture reading. So this idea that students started every morning in prayer and scripture was certainly not a uniform experience.

Baptists have historically opposed state-sponsored religion and religious practices, so your claim of "liberals" causing the "old America" to go away is certainly curious. As someone who grew up in a highly segregated part of Texas (one of the major school districts in my region finally desegregated their schools in 1982), I am happy to be done with some of the "old America."

 

[Wesley Briggman]

It's rhyme, not poetry, and there's not much truth in it.

The following are just a few examples of baldly false statements:

"Where praying is against the rule"

"And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now"

"The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice"

"In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State."

"They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible." (The Bible is not outlawed)

"To quote the Good Book makes me liable."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/harra_sc.htm
"For example, Christian children have been prohibited from bringing their Bibles to school, or forbidden to pray before a meal."

While religious persecution might be illegal in some circumstances, that condition does not preclude its occurrence.

 

[Baptist Believer]

http://www.religioustolerance.org/harra_sc.htm
"For example, Christian children have been prohibited from bringing their Bibles to school, or forbidden to pray before a meal."

While religious persecution might be illegal in some circumstances, that condition does not preclude its occurrence.

Obviously.

It is against the law to murder school children as well, but that unfortunately does not stop some people.

The rhyme you presented pretends like religious repression is legal.

As I pointed out previously, the following assertions claim that religious repression is THE LAW:

"Where praying is against the rule"

"And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now"

"The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice"

"In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State."

"They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible." (The Bible is not outlawed)

"To quote the Good Book makes me liable."​

Why do you keep trying to evade this reality?

 

[Wesley Briggman]

Obviously.

It is against the law to murder school children as well, but that unfortunately does not stop some people.

The rhyme you presented pretends like religious repression is legal.

As I pointed out previously, the following assertions claim that religious repression is THE LAW:

"Where praying is against the rule"

"And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now"

"The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice"

"In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State."

"They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible." (The Bible is not outlawed)

"To quote the Good Book makes me liable."​

Why do you keep trying to evade this reality?

Thanks for keeping in touch.