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New Trump Media Empire

Use of Time

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Even here on BB there is not an absolute "Freedom of Speech"
Jon, myself as well as others on the Admin team; have snipped parts of posts, or even deleted entire posts! One rule is that you cannot question someones salvation - when a person does - we either give them points and/or ban them.

So if we ban certain language here on BB, then we should not complain if other companies do so. if we play in their sandbox

Exactly. President Trump has many outlets including his own press corps. FoxNews invited him on their show but he either couldn’t or wouldn’t make an appearance. You think OAN or Newsmax wouldn’t let him speak if or share a message?
 

777

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he may have a few outlets but Biden has far more mouthpieces

We are not talking about freedom of speech....yet.

What we have are private companies not allowing an individual to post on their private media.

The question (right now) is whether private companies should be forced to extend their services to people.

The other questions are if these private companies are in fact a news outlet that should not be protected and if they constitute a monopoly.

But freedom of speech does not apply to private companies. Freedom of speech protests racist groups like BLM and White Supremacist groups. But it does not mean private sires must allow them a forum. Freedom of speech applies to the public arena.

your first question is easy peasy - yep. a private company can allow anybody to post or not, never could understand why Trump was so fond of twitter - went there years ago, it was a cesspool then and it's worse now. They always had a leftwing tilt, as do Google and Amazon but they all have special protection because they were supposed to be platforms and not to editorialize. Banning Trump and not banning AnftiFA is editorializing, as is banning Hunter Biden stories before the election.

They're all de facto monopolies, any start up they eventually swallow and now they're chasing Trump around and jerking parler around in order to shut Trump and his base up once and for all. For the long term, it's best if they succeed - like I implied earlier, history shows they will then turn on each other.
 

Use of Time

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he may have a few outlets but Biden has far more mouthpieces



your first question is easy peasy - yep. a private company can allow anybody to post or not, never could understand why Trump was so fond of twitter - went there years ago, it was a cesspool then and it's worse now. They always had a leftwing tilt, as do Google and Amazon but they all have special protection because they were supposed to be platforms and not to editorialize. Banning Trump and not banning AnftiFA is editorializing, as is banning Hunter Biden stories before the election.

They're all de facto monopolies, any start up they eventually swallow and now they're chasing Trump around and jerking parler around in order to shut Trump and his base up once and for all. For the long term, it's best if they succeed - like I implied earlier, history shows they will then turn on each other.

Biden has more. So what. Trump has the unilateral ability to address the nation with your own press corps in the White House whenever you’d like. Trump has enjoyed Twitter immensely over his four years. It’s only after he incited a riot that he had his privileges revoked. Key word privileges.
 

Benjamin

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Along with Constitutional legal scholar Alan Dershowitz calling out the media's censorship as a violation of free speech (contrary to the claims of Leftist narrative sympathizers here) :

Rep Nunes calls for racketeering probe into Big Tech over Parler ban



The 1st Amendment does not give monopolies the right to censor speech as their freedom!
 

Iconoclast

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Dystopia - Examples and Definition of Dystopia

Dystopia

Definition of Dystopia

Dystopia is a world in which everything is imperfect, and everything goes terribly wrong. Dystopian literature shows us a nightmarish image about what might happen to the world in the near future. Usually the main themes of dystopian works are rebellion, oppression, revolutions, wars, overpopulation, and disasters. On the other hand, Utopia is a perfect world – exactly opposite of dystopia.


Characteristics of Dystopia
  • Generally, there is no government, or if there is, it is an oppressive and controlling government.
  • Either there is a huge income gap between the poor and the rich, or everyone faces extreme poverty.
  • Propaganda put forth by the government or ruling class takes control of human minds.
Example #2: 1984 (By George Orwell)

In his classic novel, 1984, George Orwell shows a dystopian society. He has written this novel to describe the future, and the ways government takes advantage of new technologies in order to rule and control the people. The leading character, Winston Smith, falls in a trap where Big Brother, a leader of the party always watches him and other low-grade members of that society.

Inner party members live a life of luxury, while outer members live in dirty apartments. Besides, there is no emotional and mental freedom. The party does not allow anyone to rebel, even by using their minds. We see violence everywhere in this dystopic society, and the majority of people are poor, which further proves it as a fine example of dystopia. We notice everything goes decrepit, and its scenes are often dreary and dark.

Example #3: Brave New World (By Aldous Huxley)
Aldous Huxley, in his most challenging novel, Brave New World, depicts a futuristic society where individual sacrifices for the cause of state, science controls and subjugates all types of history, and the arts are outlawed. Shortly, this book perfectly fits into a classic form of dystopian literature.

Huxley draws dystopia through emotional and political events. He brings a dystopian setting by the mention of technology and higher authorities. With the increased use of technology, the need for a human work force decreases, leaving them with a great deal of depression. The novel explores the dark side of an apparently successful world, where everyone looks satisfied and contented with excessive pleasures of technology, which they achieve by sacrificing their personal freedoms.

Example #4: The Giver (By Lois Lowry)
Lois Lowry wrote a dystopian fiction, The Giver, because she thought it to be the best way to express her dissatisfaction about the unawareness of human beings about their dependence upon each other, their surroundings, and their environment. By using ironical situations of the utopian appearances, she exposes dystopian realities, in order to provoke readers to raise questions, and value their individual identities and freedom.

In this novel, Jonas’ community has no starvation, poverty, lack of housing, unemployment, or prejudice, and everything seems perfect. However, as the novel advances, Jonas gets insight into people’s personal lives, and notices that they have given up their individualities and freedoms. Besides, the community is a hypocrite conforming to false ideas and becoming a bad place in which to live.

Function of Dystopia
Through dystopia, authors express their concerns about issues of humanity and society, and warn the people about their weaknesses. Authors use dystopia as a literary technique to discuss reality, and depict issues that might happen in the future. Thus, the role of dystopia in literary works is to educate and give awareness to the audience. Dystopias also serve as warnings about the current state of affairs of a government, or of those in power. In dystopic writings, authors point out the wrong-doings in a society or a system – the reason that it is often called a critique.
 

Use of Time

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Along with Constitutional legal scholar Alan Dershowitz calling out the media's censorship as a violation of free speech (contrary to the claims of Leftist narrative sympathizers here) :

Rep Nunes calls for racketeering probe into Big Tech over Parler ban



The 1st Amendment does not give monopolies the right to censor speech as their freedom!

Good luck with that. I wouldn’t go to Vegas if I were you.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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You can be conservative on Twitter and Facebook but you can’t be a lunatic posting misinformation and incendiary content. You can be a Christian as well. My mom posts nothing but bible verses and devotionals without issue.

I don’t think you understand free speech. You also appear to be a fair weather fan of capitalism. You want the government to intervene now? What’s that sound like to you. Hmmmmm.
:Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao That is so inane I nearly spit my coffee. Wake up, man. "The government" is what is behind all of this, and it is they who are promoting extensive disinformation and misinformation. Are you even from the USA? Have you paid no attention to the political activities of the past five years? Or did I misunderstand and you are actually calling for open rebellion by "we the people"? :rolleyes:
 

Use of Time

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:Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao :Roflmao That is so inane I nearly spit my coffee. Wake up, man. "The government" is what is behind all of this, and it is they who are promoting extensive disinformation and misinformation. Are you even from the USA? Have you paid no attention to the political activities of the past five years? Or did I misunderstand and you are actually calling for open rebellion by "we the people"? :rolleyes:

The “government” is behind this is a thing that is very broadly said. I don’t even know what I’m being asked here or what you’d like me to address.

And it’s too late to be drinking coffee! You’ll never get to sleep!
 

JonC

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Along with Constitutional legal scholar Alan Dershowitz calling out the media's censorship as a violation of free speech (contrary to the claims of Leftist narrative sympathizers here) :

Rep Nunes calls for racketeering probe into Big Tech over Parler ban



The 1st Amendment does not give monopolies the right to censor speech as their freedom!
The 1st Ammendment does not give Baptists the right to censure speech either. That is not the purpose of the Ammendment.
 

JonC

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The “government” is behind this is a thing that is very broadly said. I don’t even know what I’m being asked here or what you’d like me to address.

And it’s too late to be drinking coffee! You’ll never get to sleep!
It's the Man, man! That's what I've been saying for years. Stick it to the Man! :)
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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The “government” is behind this is a thing that is very broadly said. I don’t even know what I’m being asked here or what you’d like me to address.

And it’s too late to be drinking coffee! You’ll never get to sleep!
You probably don't need to address it. Government granted them the technical exemptions from prosecution so that they could grow massively without concern. It is only right that government should crack down on their abuses. This doesn't mean government will, and the main reason is because they are doing their government's bidding.

I didn't say I was drinking coffee, just trying not to spit it at the wrong time. :Wink
 
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