New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo On Gun Control: ‘Confiscation Could Be An Option’

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

so how do you think Obama is going to come at this.....federal mandate via bypassing the congress? Or do you think he will let the states do it via the Democratic's. Im telling you this as a warning, New Jersey is like a police state.

I suspect he won't do anything. This is bidenspeak after all.

 

[poncho]

Good. A step in the right direction. Now they need to follow through.

A step in the right direction? Figures from the EU Commission and the UN show that the number of violent crimes per 100,000 residents in England is around 2,000 compared to just 466 in America.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1941866&postcount=1

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677. source

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Gun control has never reduced violent crime in Britain.

It’s four times safer to live in America than England.

So, why in the world would we want to take the direction your country took?

 

[Alcott]

But if ownership is made illegal (a prerequisite for confiscation) then those owning guns will no longer be 'law-abiding', will they?

Jesus, Peter, John, and Paul were not "law-abiding." Neither will I be in any attempt at theft of my guns.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I suspect he won't do anything. This is bidenspeak after all.

Ole "Plugs" Biden....well he reps for BO so whatever the "Son o Scranton" pulls outa his hat you think they will run with?

 

[carpro]

That reallywont happen in cultures that already have them as a way of life. I live in a state that is the most regulated in the country...you can still get them but it is difficult. Everything is based on what type and why you want it in the first place. I cant get a handgun (legally) so I don't have one but I can get a shotgun because that is on the OK for hunting list..,but the criminal can get one...then I'm defenseless.

I'm not a criminal, but if you want a hand gun...:thumbs:

 

[carpro]

Surely it is for the courts - ultimately SCOTUS - to interpret the Constitution, not individual citizens?

Yes, and they already have. According to SCOTUS, any attempt to ban ownership of guns is , in fact, unconstitutional.

 

[carpro]

But if ownership is made illegal (a prerequisite for confiscation) then those owning guns will no longer be 'law-abiding', will they?

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to do so.

That is not going to happen.

 

[carpro]

so how do you think Obama is going to come at this.....federal mandate via bypassing the congress? Or do you think he will let the states do it via the Democratic's. Im telling you this as a warning, New Jersey is like a police state.

King Obama will do whatever he thinks he can get away with, probably try to make gun purchases a difficult and onerous task. Long waiting periods...extensive abusive background checks to the point that even traffic tickets would make owning a gun impossible. If he can't do that, he'll go after the ammunition.


He doesn't care what the states want.

 

[Matt Black]

The other way lies tyranny and dictatorship. Maybe you should study up on the American Revolution.

Hmmm...we have gone the 'other way' as you put it; I'd scarcely classify the UK as a tyranny or dictatorship. Really not sure what point you're trying to make here?

 

[Matt Black]

A step in the right direction? Figures from the EU Commission and the UN show that the number of violent crimes per 100,000 residents in England is around 2,000 compared to just 466 in America.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1941866&postcount=1

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

• The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
• It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
• The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
• It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677. source


Gun control has never reduced violent crime in Britain.

It’s four times safer to live in America than England.

So, why in the world would we want to take the direction your country took?

I'll respond substantively to you on the thread you've started but for now...the Daily Mail:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Matt Black]

Jesus, Peter, John, and Paul were not "law-abiding." Neither will I be in any attempt at theft of my guns.

I really don't see what preaching the Gospel has to do with ownership of guns. Again, what was your point????

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Jesus, Peter, John, and Paul were not "law-abiding." Neither will I be in any attempt at theft of my guns.

What law did Jesus break? At the trial Pilate, the legal authority, found Him innocent, but yielded to the crowd's call for crucifixion.

Peter and John only broke the 'law' established by religious authorities when they had to choose between obey God or obeying man. I don't see how that applies here.

Paul had the same problem - he could not obey Rome and God when it came to preaching the gospel. He had to choose to obey God and suffer the consequences.

And these men were always respectful to the authorities.

I can't see this in the same category as disobeying gun laws.

 

[Revmitchell]

Jesus was not being respectful to authorities just to be respectful o authorities. That is ridiculous. Jesus went, and only when He was ready, to the cross for a bigger purpose. And there were times in His ministry that he castigated the authorities and rejected their attempts.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Three Hour Warning

As this thread is well past its third page, I'm giving the three hour warning before closing it on or after 2pm EST.

 

[Berean]

My question is what option would 2nd Am supporters have if Gun Confiscation Legislation is passed. Would the reaction be any different then the reaction to Obama Health Care that probably had more people opposed to then 2nd Am does?

 

[Matt Black]

Jesus was not being respectful to authorities just to be respectful o authorities. That is ridiculous. Jesus went, and only when He was ready, to the cross for a bigger purpose. And there were times in His ministry that he castigated the authorities and rejected their attempts.

And Jesus' ministry has what exactly to do with guns?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

It's after 2 EST. So, this thread is closed