New York Post - A Racist Cartoon

[monk]

It's not racist by any means.

It's a play on the news item of the escaped chimp that tried to kill that woman a couple of days ago. The police killed it.

The cartoon is saying that the stimulus package is so stupid that a monkey must have written it.

Barak Obama did NOT write the stimulus (spending) bill, so how can the cartoon be connected with him?

So in this case the president is not connected with the stimulus. But any other time we talk about the stimulus it's the presidents fault. yeah that makes sense.

 

[777]

He said it wasn't, but it's still thoughtless considering the mindset of Barack Hussein Obama - he has this obsession with being assassinated, why he's fascinated with the likes of Lincoln, the Kennedys, MLK. That's why this administration overreacts to everything:

http://www.newsok.com/okc-officer-p...article/3347038?custom_click=headlines_widget

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29259819/



Look again at the cartoon - the (white) police officers (authority) shot the (black) monkey (government). Waaaaaay too edgy........ pushes all the wrong buttons.

 

[Alcott]

Where's Howard Cosell when we need him?

 

[windcatcher]

I agree that the cartoon of the 18th is so ambiguous and open to interpretation that it is a waste and poor taste.

What my first thought was when I saw it, however, was the stimulus plan is so stupid, a monkey.... or monkeys could have written it for what its worth and would be better off DOA. ........I didn't think 'race' but can understand how some who view this stimilus plan as Obama's plan may consider it racist: But then, I frequently am at odds with some members on this board when I recognize some demonstrations of legislation and budgets as the responsibility of the Legislature..... when others still want to blame the President. I'm not sure then who is the monkey.... the one's who write and vote for the bills or the ones who post on this board and show their ignorance of the constitution enough to blame the President! I think a donkey would have been more appropriate.... but guess the woman whos friend got attacked by an ape is so recent it captured and overpowered the artist interest and imagination.

The recent cartoon showing two amputees, one being the recipient of government monies and assisted by his friends..... and the other being a citizen dependant on crutches and not a recipient ........ seems an interesting portrayal: Private citizens and big corporate interest are in positions to feel that the recent SNAFU in the financial, housing, and corporate markets have cost them 'an arm and a leg', but the financial and corporate giants get bailed out while leaning on each other for support..... and the individual is stuck paying the debts of stimulus and bailout after already sacrificing a limb: Definitely no racism there.

 

[Aaron]

The joke isn't open or vague at all.

In a play on the old Infinite Monkey's Theorem, it's saying that the Stifle-ous Bill couldn't have been written except by a monkey sitting at a typewriter hitting the keys at random.

As a "stimulous" bill, it's meaningless.

 

[LeBuick]

To think that the resent bill passed is to be for stimulus is nonsensical and an ape must have wrote it. Obama didn't write it, the Dems did and sense they did, they should change their jackass mascot to that of a rampaging chimp.

I don't know but it seems to me that a shooting of a jackass makes better sense. :laugh:

You all stick with this story... :thumbsup:

Not a good defense but Burris found out what happens when you change your tune...

 

[Scarlett O.]

So in this case the president is not connected with the stimulus. But any other time we talk about the stimulus it's the presidents fault. yeah that makes sense.

I can't speak for anyone else, but in the past couple of weeks of my personal grumbling and complaining and screaming about this absurd stimulus package, I haven't even considered the President.

I am angry at Congress. There are several people at work that I can't get into a conversation about this with or we will end up spending all day griping over it. Obama's name doesn't come up. But Nancy Pelosi's does. Idiot Congressmen and Congresswomen do.

In this particular instance and in my opinion, the stimulus package is the monstrous baby of the Legislative Branch. And in this particular instance and in my opinion, Obama is just a "rubber stamp" Executive Officer. Pelosi, et. al. are leading him by the nose.

I am one of the first people to get a bad taste in my mouth over racist jokes and innuendos. I don't like them. They're stupid and mean and show low class and low cognitive abilities.

This was a reference to the chimp who almost killed a woman and was shot by the police. Congress authored the stimulus package.

I don't see the racist overtones.

 

[dragonfly]

It's easy to identify the racist around here. They tell on themselves.

 

[Steven2006]

I don't care what the artist meant with the picture. The fact is there is a long history in this county of dehumanizing black people by calling them monkey's, in the past and sadly even currently today. For that reason alone I would hope that all Christians out love for others would be sensitive to others feelings and stand against anything that even hints at the ugliness and hate of racism. It never ceases to amaze me when people think they can and should decide if something should be offensive to someone else. Just the fact that it is offensive to some should be reason enough to have a little empathy for how they might feel. Just the fact that it is offensive should be reason enough to not want to take part in or defend it, but rather distance ourselves from it.

Monk made a fantastic point that cannot be denied.

"So in this case the president is not connected with the stimulus. But any other time we talk about the stimulus it's the presidents fault. yeah that makes sense."

The thing is we don't even have to go back very far to see other examples of this type of thing.

Sure we can argue that he was only making a joke and his real point was something else entirely. Hey that is the same excuse the Palestinian Authority used.

A cartoon appearing in the Palestinian Authority’s daily, shows U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice pregnant with a monkey; the cartoon is mocking her statement about a “New Middle East” being born.



Col 3:12 Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility,
gentleness and patience.


1Pe 3:8 Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.


1Pe 2:17
Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.


Mat 7:12 "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.


Rom 12:9 {Let} love {be} without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good.


1Cr 16:14 Let all that you do be done in love.


1Th 3:12 and may the Lord cause you to increase and abound in love for one another, and for all people, just as we also {do} for you;


My prayer is that all Christians will be an example of Christ's love to every man at all times. That all our actions glorify Him always.

 

[777]

That's right, just because you can doesn't mean you should. And this payback thing is childish:

It was disrespectful and not funny then, as this is, now with a racial angle that does no good.

Not a real apology IMO:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ny_post_cartoon;_ylt=ApVSLjUKxnMvMRGkF6T.MWF.KcMA

NEW YORK – After two days of protests, the New York Post apologized Thursday for a cartoon that some have interpreted as comparing President Barack Obama to a violent chimpanzee gunned down by police. But the newspaper also said its longtime antagonists exploited the image for revenge.

The qualified apology didn't mollify at least some of the cartoon's critics, who said they might continue protesting Friday.

The newspaper posted an editorial on its Web site Thursday evening saying the cartoon was meant to mock the federal economic stimulus bill, but "to those who were offended by the image, we apologize."

Lame.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Steven, an outstanding post! :applause:

 

[Steven2006]

Steven, an outstanding post! :applause:

Thank you Magnetic

 

[Scarlett O.]

I don't care what the artist meant with the picture. The fact is there is a long history in this county of dehumanizing black people by calling them monkey's, in the past and sadly even currently today. For that reason alone I would hope that all Christians out love for others would be sensitive to others feelings and stand against anything that even hints at the ugliness and hate of racism. It never ceases to amaze me when people think they can and should decide if something should be offensive to someone else. Just the fact that it is offensive to some should be reason enough to have a little empathy for how they might feel. Just the fact that it is offensive should be reason enough to not want to take part in or defend it, but rather distance ourselves from it.

*Yawn*

Your sad little song would be tolerable if the underlined parts were true.

I NEVER even thought of Obama when I saw the drawing. My mind immediately went to the nuts in Congress. Therefore, how could it be offensive, if my mind didn't associate the monkey with the President?

Not all of us have the repugnant notion of "monkeys = black people" on the brain, you know.

I certainly don't.

No matter what Mr. Dragonfly tries to imply.

 

[Revmitchell]

It never ceases to amaze me when people think they can and should decide if something should be offensive to someone else. Just the fact that it is offensive to some should be reason enough to have a little empathy for how they might feel. Just the fact that it is offensive should be reason enough to not want to take part in or defend it, but rather distance ourselves from it.

A most impossible standard. Everything anyone says will offend someone somewhere. Nothing realistic about it at all.

 

[Steven2006]

*Yawn*

Your sad little song would be tolerable if the underlined parts were true.

I NEVER even thought of Obama when I saw the drawing. My mind immediately went to the nuts in Congress. Therefore, how could it be offensive, if my mind didn't associate the monkey with the President?

Not all of us have the repugnant notion of "monkeys = black people" on the brain, you know.

I certainly don't.

No matter what Mr. Dragonfly tries to imply.

Of course you didn't find it offensive, that is very obvious. However you need to reread my post because you missed my point entirely. It isn't about what you find offensive, but rather having the decency to realize that many others are offended by things like this. Your post just reinforces my point, how can you believe that you should define what is or should be offense to others? The fact is it is offensive to many people regardless if you deny it or not.

 

[Steven2006]

A most impossible standard. Everything anyone says will offend someone somewhere. Nothing realistic about it at all.

That is a valid point and I can appreciate it, if it was made as just a general blanket statement. However in the very specific case of racism I think as Christians we should be very sensitive to peoples feelings and how things can be hurtful, regardless if we think we would be offended or not. I have seen the hurt in people eyes at the pain they felt when it came to things done that others just laughed off as "nothing" to get upset about. It is one of the most heartbreaking things to witness. God created all of us as we are, and whatever skin color God gave someone he or she should never be made to feel hurt because of that choice.

Let me ask this. How does it possibly hurt to just distance ourselves from things like this? For something that takes so little to do, why not? If someone is telling you, yes this hurts me, this makes me feel horrible inside why not respond to that, Even if you don't understand whyit does, how does doing something nice negatively hurt you at all in this situation?

 

[Revmitchell]

That is a valid point and I can appreciate it, if it was made as just a general blanket statement. However in the very specific case of racism I think as Christians we should be very sensitive to peoples feelings and how things can be hurtful, regardless if we think we would be offended or not. I have seen the hurt in people eyes at the pain they felt when it came to things done that others just laughed off as "nothing" to get upset about. It is one of the most heartbreaking things to witness. God created all of us as we are, and whatever skin color God gave someone he or she should never be made to feel hurt because of that choice.

Let me ask this. How does it possibly hurt to just distance ourselves from things like this? For something that takes so little to do, why not? If someone is telling you, yes this hurts me, this makes me feel horrible inside why not respond to that, Even if you don't understand whyit does, how does doing something nice negatively hurt you at all in this situation?

I don't support the cartoon. But Sharpton and his ilk work to make every little thing a race issue. It is their livelihood and I will not feed that either. I doubt it was intended to be racist and we need to walk in a little reality instead of walking around looking to be offended.

 

[monk]

Steven,
I really appreciate the things you've written here.
People are so afraid to show the least bit of compassion because they are afraid they will be identified with the ones they hate most.
I come from a school that calls BS when they see it. No matter if it's on the right or the left, if something is an injustice to others - speak up! Don't wait until you are the one being violated.
+monk

 

[targus]

Maybe the monkeys should be offended about being compared to politicans.

 

[Aaron]

Steven,

An insipid post. I support the cartoonist and the cartoon whole heartedly. I reject your premise as merely the irrational cavil of a man indoctrinated into the tyranny of political 'correctness.'