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New York Times: Rice University Breakthrough Cases

kathleenmariekg

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Covid Live Updates: Rice University Delays In-Person Classes as Virus Surges
Covid Live Updates: Rice University Delays In-Person Classes as Virus Surges

Unlike the state’s public universities, which cannot mandate vaccines or masks, Rice has imposed stringent requirements for being on campus. It requires student and faculty members to wear masks and has testing protocols for all visitors. And while not specifically requiring vaccines and risking running afoul of Texas law, it has told students they were expected to be vaccinated. ...

... The university delayed the start of school by two days until Aug. 25 and said that classes would remain online through Sept. 3.

It also said that members of the Rice community had tested positive for Covid despite the high vaccination rates — 98.5 percent — among the student body.

“I’ll be blunt: the level of breakthrough cases (positive testing among vaccinated persons) is much higher than anticipated,” Bridget Gorman, the dean of undergraduates, wrote in a letter to the school’s 8,000 graduate and undergraduate students. The university didn’t specify how many breakthrough cases there were.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The vaccine mandate is wrong minded. I will be Blunt, these experimental vaccines have not been proven to be all that effective ( not in halting COVID spread nor in immunity ) so what’s the agenda to push, indeed to demand them? And for that, Rice gets 4 thumbs down :Thumbsdown:Thumbsdown:Speechless:Thumbsdown:Thumbsdown. :p
 

just-want-peace

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The more the questions play out re: the vaccine, the more obvious it becomes that the dems are getting very edgy about their potential loss of a sword to hold over people's necks. For the present, this is their weapon of "control", and they aren't gonna relinquish it easily!!!! No telling how many "variants" will materialize in the near future, but I'm sure it will be quite a few!!!
 

kathleenmariekg

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There is so much that I do not know, but this is a shift in what the New York Times had been reporting about the efficacy of the vaccine.

And then there is this about the transmission potential of vaccinated people.

I am starting to hear what I was expecting to hear, eventually. I wanted to be wrong, but I did not expect to be wrong. I think in the end, medical science will eventually make giant breakthroughs that are beyond just fighting the pandemic, but these breakthroughs won't be made immediately and they won't be made without harming people and they won't be made in time to prevent significant economic change.

No quick fix is going to save us from what it coming. I am not sure what happens when the masses figure that out. We are in this for the long haul. And we will exit into a world that is unrecognizable from the one we had before.

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Covid-19: Fully vaccinated people can carry as much delta virus as unvaccinated people, data indicate

Covid-19: Fully vaccinated people can carry as much delta virus as unvaccinated people, data indicate

BMJ 2021; 374 doi: Covid-19: Fully vaccinated people can carry as much delta virus as unvaccinated people, data indicate (Published 19 August 2021)Cite this as: BMJ 2021;374:n2074

Adults who have been fully vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 can carry the same viral load of the delta variant as those who are unvaccinated, a preliminary analysis of UK data suggests.1

The latest results from the UK’s national covid-19 infection survey show that having two vaccine doses remains the most effective way to ensure protection against delta. But, although people who are fully vaccinated have a lower risk of becoming infected, those infected with the delta variant can carry similar virus levels as unvaccinated people, the data show. The authors said the implications for transmission were not yet clear but suggested that the potential for fully vaccinated individuals to transmit the virus to others would make achieving herd immunity more of a challenge.
 

JonC

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If the CDC fact sheets are to be believed, vaccinated people can get covid, can spread covid, and can even die of covid.

They did (and still do) question the viral load.

I'm not sure what part of this people do not understand.

I keep seeing comments about people thinking they discovered something when the rate of infection among vaccinated people rise proportionately to the vaccine rate.

But that is to be expected. If the US were 100% vaccinated then the cases of covid would be 100% among the vaccinated.
 
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